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NoNukes
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Message 9 of 32 (734631)
07-31-2014 8:24 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Epee
07-31-2014 6:23 PM


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f you believe that your holy book is the written word of god
What exactly do you think the phrase "written word of god" actually means? That god dictated every word of the Bible? That the Bible contains no allegory or non literal lessons?
Your position is based on some assumptions that are not shared by every person who claims to follow the Bible. Almost certainly your judgments of those people are wrong as well.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 18 of 32 (734733)
08-01-2014 5:44 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Epee
08-01-2014 5:18 PM


Re: Thread Copied from Proposed New Topics Forum
Sure, you could argue that parts of the bible are allegorical. You could argue that the ENTIRE bible is allegorical. But there's no consistent way to decide which parts of the bible are allegorical and which are literal. This leads people to just pick and choose what parts they like and then anything they don't like becomes a metaphor.
Yes, there is that trap. But that difficulty does not excuse the error of taking everything literally or assuming that Christians must do so. Being correct may actually turn out to be difficult. And quite frankly, I think the difficulty is exaggerated. There are plenty of cues that some stories were never intended to be taken literally.
What is the Jewish take on whether the origin story in Genesis are to be taken literally? Why is it inconsistent or wrong when Christians take a similar approach?
I have not made judgments of anybody (yet) so you have no idea if my judgments of them are wrong.
Yes, you did make a judgment. You accused people who don't insist on following every element of the Bible as nitpicking what they want to believe. You repeated that judgment in the post I am now responding to.
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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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