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Author Topic:   Evolution. We Have The Fossils. We Win.
JonF
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Message 2589 of 2887 (832314)
05-02-2018 8:33 AM
Reply to: Message 2580 by Faith
05-02-2018 6:17 AM


Re: Why would cultural Christians reject evidence if it existed?
I was merely saying I'm not alone in this effort, and when I watched that film "Is Genesis History" I was happy to find out how much of my own thoughts are those of the other creationists, geologists and other experts among them..
Ah, IOW there are not lots of YECs investigating the fludde from the physical evidence. Glad you cleared that up.

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Message 2590 of 2887 (832315)
05-02-2018 8:33 AM
Reply to: Message 2583 by Faith
05-02-2018 6:40 AM


Re: Why would cultural Christians reject evidence if it existed?
Centuries.

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JonF
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Message 2606 of 2887 (832343)
05-02-2018 4:17 PM
Reply to: Message 2597 by Faith
05-02-2018 2:55 PM


Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
There's salt in the layers, and that causes changes after the strata were laid down.
What changes by what processes?

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JonF
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Message 2612 of 2887 (832351)
05-02-2018 6:07 PM
Reply to: Message 2611 by Percy
05-02-2018 5:55 PM


I get 13 including the one to which I'm replying.

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JonF
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Message 2637 of 2887 (832385)
05-03-2018 8:44 AM
Reply to: Message 2625 by Faith
05-02-2018 9:18 PM


Re: the diagram of strata
IOW you have no idea.

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JonF
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Message 2639 of 2887 (832387)
05-03-2018 8:54 AM
Reply to: Message 2626 by Faith
05-02-2018 9:22 PM


Re: modern creationism
The modern approach by creationists to constructing the evidence for the Flood is usually traced back to Henry Morris, just a few decades ago.
Who plagiarized pretty much everything from George McCready Price (1870-1963) without attribution.
Who in turn made pretty much all of his stuff up based on the writings of the founder of the Seventh Day Adventists, Allen G. White (1827-1915).

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JonF
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Message 2649 of 2887 (832401)
05-03-2018 10:54 AM
Reply to: Message 2640 by Faith
05-03-2018 9:07 AM


Re: modern creationism
Yeah, Ellen, that was autocorrect. She was the founder and leader of a small fringe Christian sect.
But the fact remains that "modern" YEC dates to the mid nineteenth century. And is still running on the knowledge of the eighteenth century and earlier.
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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JonF
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Message 2650 of 2887 (832402)
05-03-2018 11:02 AM
Reply to: Message 2647 by NoNukes
05-03-2018 10:42 AM


Re: trilobite species
She didn't even try. She will never learn that insulting an idea is not discussing or refuting it.

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JonF
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Message 2665 of 2887 (832420)
05-03-2018 12:09 PM
Reply to: Message 2663 by Faith
05-03-2018 12:06 PM


Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
But nothing to say to support your disagreement.

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JonF
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Message 2671 of 2887 (832427)
05-03-2018 12:43 PM
Reply to: Message 2667 by Faith
05-03-2018 12:11 PM


Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
Except the many years you have been fighting the minuscule amount of evidence you can acknowledge and making up extra-biblical fantasies that are falsified by that rest of the evidence and are usually physically impossible.

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JonF
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Message 2672 of 2887 (832428)
05-03-2018 12:45 PM
Reply to: Message 2668 by Faith
05-03-2018 12:13 PM


Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
status quo interpretation has no real evidence and is definitely all in your heads.
You're confusing evidence and interpretation again.
The entire Earth and every detail is evidence.
Your quarrel should be with the mainstream interpretation.
But you are incapable of comprehending or discussing that interpretation. All you have is kindergarten name calling.

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JonF
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Message 2679 of 2887 (832438)
05-03-2018 3:53 PM
Reply to: Message 2676 by Faith
05-03-2018 3:41 PM


Re: trilobite species
If you don't think my latest description suffices there's no point in digging up the other post where I discussed it.
That's gobbledygook. If your latest description (AKA unsupported assertion) doesn't suffice the obvious thing to do is digging up the post where you discussed.
Of course, in this case we know there is no discussion to dig up.

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JonF
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Message 2681 of 2887 (832441)
05-03-2018 4:02 PM
Reply to: Message 2677 by Faith
05-03-2018 3:42 PM


Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
You see no need to answer that pack of lies? Let’s discuss.
quote:
status quo interpretation has no real evidence and is definitely all in your heads.
You're confusing evidence and interpretation again.
The entire Earth and every detail is evidence.
Your quarrel should be with the mainstream interpretation.
But you are incapable of comprehending or discussing that interpretation. All you have is kindergarten name calling.
The first three statements are simple facts.
You've just proved the fourth. Again.
Got anything substantive to say?
Didn't think so.

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JonF
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Message 2683 of 2887 (832443)
05-03-2018 4:08 PM
Reply to: Message 2680 by Faith
05-03-2018 3:54 PM


Re: trilobite species
Your latest post was an unsupported (and false) assertion. If there's nothing more in your previous post, then your previous post was another unsupported (and false) assertion. So you know you haven't discussed human versus chimp body plans. Your claim to have done so is a deliberate lie. Looks as if you did that to avoid revealing your ignorance and inability to support your claims any more than you already have.

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JonF
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Message 2691 of 2887 (832464)
05-04-2018 8:57 AM
Reply to: Message 2690 by Faith
05-04-2018 5:33 AM


Re: Limestones are very much mostly of biochemical precipitate origin
Why would the circumstances of its finding and who found it matter?
The other items you mention are well known and readily available to anyone interested in truth.

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