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Author Topic:   If US is a "Christian Nation" what brand is it?
RAZD
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Message 1 of 22 (775880)
01-06-2016 11:17 AM


Cliven Bundy says it is Mormon:
Explainer: The Bundy Militia’s Particular Brand Of Mormonism
quote:
Those views are intertwined with Bundy’s faith. Speaking in St. George, Utah, after the standoff with the Bureau of Land Management, Bundy posed these questions to a crowd of mostly conservative Mormons, as reported by the Spectrum of St. George:
If our (U.S.) Constitution is an inspired document by our Lord Jesus Christ, then isn’t it scripture? Bundy asked.
Yes, a chorus of voices replied.
Isn’t it the same as the Book of Mormon and the Bible? Bundy asked.
Absolutely, the audience answered.
A New Generation Of Mormon Extremism
David Ammon Bundy — Cliven’s father — relocated the family to Nevada in the 1940s. Cliven named his third son, Ammon, after his father. Ammon is also a figure in the Mormon faith, described as a great servant in LDS scripture.
Note that the central LDS church does not agree with the Bundy clan version, so they are a branch, fundamentalist extreme faction.
So are they right that the US is a Mormon inspired nation?
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Message 4 of 22 (775895)
01-06-2016 1:49 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Tanypteryx
01-06-2016 12:56 PM


WTF ????
Fundamentalist Mormons, now terrorizing an unmanned remote bird sanctuary ... because "god" told them to. With guns.
To return public land to the people ...

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Message 5 of 22 (775897)
01-06-2016 1:57 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Blue Jay
01-06-2016 1:48 PM


Re: A(n ex-)Mormon Perspective
Mainstream Mormon beliefs do hold that the U.S. Constitution was inspired by God, which is not an unusual thing for a American church to believe.
This is not much different what Faith's always claiming and other evangelical Christian's. So who's right?
... but I think most Mormons still see a distinction between 'scripture' and 'ScriptureTM.'
Like Jar's god\God\GOD distinction? I would take from this that they would put (Mormon) "ScriptureTM" ahead of (constitution) "scripture" when there is a conflict, hence insurrection?
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Message 7 of 22 (775905)
01-06-2016 2:46 PM
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01-06-2016 2:39 PM


Re: A(n ex-)Mormon Perspective
Mormonism might have a somewhat better claim to this than other churches, simply because the people in the Book of Mormon are very (suspiciously?) American-like in their championing of freedom and human rights ...
Perhaps because it came after (1820's) the constitution and bill of rights?

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