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Phat
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Message 46 of 52 (781518)
04-04-2016 9:09 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by starlite
04-04-2016 9:02 PM


Prove It
My position is that to claim decay existed in the far past you must prove it first. Not assume it.
To be fair, however...a critic could ask you to prove that Jesus created all seen and unseen. How would you prove that?

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain

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Message 47 of 52 (781521)
04-04-2016 9:12 PM
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04-04-2016 9:09 PM


Re: Prove It
Damn Phat, please keep mythology out of the science threads.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Phat
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Message 48 of 52 (781523)
04-04-2016 9:16 PM
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04-04-2016 9:12 PM


Re: Prove It
sorry. Im learning right along with the rest of us.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain

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Message 49 of 52 (781525)
04-04-2016 9:31 PM
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04-04-2016 9:09 PM


Re: Prove It
I would not use science that is too small.
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Message 50 of 52 (781540)
04-05-2016 3:51 AM
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04-04-2016 9:31 PM


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I would not use science that is too small.
OK im going to give you an opportunity to use as BIG of science as you are able. jar was right in that I should never have brought Jesus up in the Science Forums. Perhaps we should limit discussions about God, Jesus, or The creativeness of the Holy Spirit to the Faith & Belief Forums. As I said before, Science Forums require reasonable argumentation and detailed responses...or questions to others in order to clarify their evidence.
The steps of the scientific method are to:
  • Ask a Question.
  • Do Background Research.
  • Construct a Hypothesis.
  • Test Your Hypothesis by Doing an Experiment.
  • Analyze Your Data and Draw a Conclusion.
  • Communicate Your Results.
  • If you can't or won't do this, I'm going to ban you from the science forums and you will be limited to the Faith & Belief Forums.

    Edited by AdminPhat, : No reason given.

    Edited by AdminPhat, : clarification


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    Phat
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    Message 51 of 52 (781563)
    04-05-2016 9:57 AM
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    04-04-2016 9:08 PM


    Re: Assertions, Beliefs & Facts
    Phat writes:


    Keep in mind, however that starlite believes that God is actual evidence. I believe that through Him all things were created. Thus I agree with starlite in that regard. I think.

    jar writes:

    Then neither of you have anything worthwhile to contribute to this thread. Until one of you places god on the table to be examined god is NOT evidence of anything.

    Technically I can't "put god on the table"--at least not in the Science Forums. As you know, we often have stimulating and interesting conversations in Faith & Belief or Bible Study Forums. I will keep myself busy over there.

    Edited by Phat, : oops


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    Message 52 of 52 (781720)
    04-06-2016 8:33 PM
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    04-04-2016 3:16 PM


    Re: Wish I May Wish I Might
    Theoretically, when we look out there through a telescope, we are looking back through time. Is it possible (though not likely) that what we see through that lens is all entirely in the past and that the stars could now have disappeared?

    No. Most stars have lifespans of thousands of millions of years. For relatively close galaxies such as Centaurus A or the Virgo cluster the light-travel time is much less than the stellar lifetime, so most of the stars that form these galaxies are still in existence. Even the stars that have died are mostly still there, as white dwarfs, neutron stars or black holes, even though they are too faint to be seen by optical telescopes.


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