Phat writes:
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Agree, but God never makes anyone do anything.
Except for Pharaoh, who has his heart hardened by god so that the Hebrews are not let go so that god can then justify his increasingly violent attacks upon the Egyptians leading to genocide of the innocent.
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We can freely choose to fail and end up damned. Why on earth would anyone want to fail, however?
Because the guidance on "How Not to Fail" is clearly insufficient and thus there is no way to know how not to fail?
After all, the Bible starts off with this precise problem: Adam and Eve are innocent and do not know good and evil. And yet, they are told, "Don't touch," regarding the Tree of Knowledge with god directly lying to them in his attempt to get them not to touch it (leaving us to wonder why he put the Tree there in the first place). The serpent then comes along and tells them that god is lying (which he is). So when Eve eats of the Tree and finds out that god lied to her, how is that "failing"? How on earth could she have possibly known? She was innocent and did not know good and evil. It's not that she was stupid. It's that she had no idea what good and evil were since she hadn't eaten of the Tree yet and when faced with a choice between god and the serpent, she was incapable of determining which one to pay attention to.
Beetaratagang or clerendipity? One will open the gates of heaven to you while the other will damn you eternally. Which do you choose? Come on...you're not stupid. Why do you hesitate? Make your choice. Do you want to fail?
The "How Not to Fail" book is filled with contradictions and makes claims about what is supposed to be good and evil that are clearly wrong. So exactly how is one expected to not fail given absolutely no effective guidance on the subject?
Rrhain
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