Christianity and the End Times

But how do you "know" that? You can't have learned it from the Bible; that would be circular. On the contrary, when you're reading different books written at different times by different people with different purposes, you can't superimpose a veneer of relationships. One obvious mistake you make is mashing every villain in the Bible into one "Satan" character. Even the characters named Satan are not all villains (Book of Job) and the poor little snake in Genesis wasn't a villain at all.You wouldn't mash up The Wind in the Willows with the Phone Book and The Wealth of Nations, would you? So why don't you have the same respect for the individual books of the Bible?

I'm not sure your (and jaywill's) hodge-podge is going to help any body. It seems to me that you're trying to clear a minefield by throwing in more mines.

But it's only possesion by some spirit that supports that idea. The fact that you can flat-out contradict what the Bible says so often says something about the "holiness" of that spirit. snake = Satan = dragon is a mash-up.

It's identified as a snake. Any further "revelation" is made up. The only contradiction I've mentioned is you contradicting the Bible. And as I said, if the spirit is telling you to contradict the Bible, the nature of that spirit is questionable.

Nothing in revelation claims that every serpent is Satan.Exodus 7:9 ... 'Take your staff and throw it down before Pharaoh, that it may become a serpent.'Numbers 21:6 The LORD sent fiery serpents among the people and they bit the people...Proverbs 30:19 The way of an eagle in the sky, The way of a serpent on a rock, The way of a ship in the middle of the sea...John 3:14 As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up...Mark 16:18 ... they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly poison...Etc.

And you give no justification for that claim.

It's hard to tell whether you're being genuinely obtuse or deliberately obfuscating or something worse.The issue is the beginning, not who created the universe.If I said, "In the beginning, I painted my house blue," that would not be confusing. But if I said, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth and I painted my house blue," that would imply that my painting was simultaneous with the creation.Similarly, if the creation of the heavens and the earth were both in the beginning, that implies that they were simultaneous. We know that they were not.

You applaud jaywill and you cheer Faith because they say what you want to hear, not because there is any strength in their arguments.

Interesting typo. Nut was an Egyptian goddess:

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"I am Nut, and I have come so that I may enfold and protect you from all things evil."

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It's funny how you cite the "theological mainstream" when it suits you and throw them under the bus when it doesn't.But appeal to authority is a fallacy anyway. It's what the text says that counts.

What are your motives for not believing in unicorns? Do you hate unicorns that much?

It isn't the Bible that you promote. It's a fanciful tale that's intertwined with the Bible but mostly made up.

We could certainly do that in an appropriate thread. Feel free to start one.

I've been trying to make that point to you for years.Jesus said,"For this purpose I was born and for this purpose I have come into the worldto bear witness to the truth." He came to bear witness to the truth. He wasn't the truth Himself. What He said was the truth.

I know the thread has diverged from the topic from time to time. That's why I don't want to deliberately take it farther off topic.Are you afraid of your own challenge? Go ahead and start a thread on John 1 and we'll see what happens.