Evidence Of Jesus Written In Stone

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Originally posted by David unfamous:

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The 20-inch-long box resides in a private collection in Israel... Its history prior to its current ownership is not known.

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So... we don't know where it came from, or where it is now. Don't you just love this kind of evidence?

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What Tenchi didnt quote, funnily enough, was"BAR editor Hershel Shanks told CT the ossuary had been in the private collection of an Israeli citizen for about 15 years. "I asked the owner why he didn't recognize it. He said, 'I never thought that the Son of God could have a brother.'"Shanks became aware of its existence in June after the owner contacted French epigrapher Andre LeMaire to evaluate it for him. The owner "got it from an Arab antiquities dealer," he said. "He only paid a few hundred dollars for it. The antiquities dealer told him it was found in the section of Jerusalem called Silwan, just south of the Mount of Olives. It's an area that's pockmarked with burial caves. Some people have their basements in ancient burial caves."So we are asked to believe that an Israeli citizen had the box for about 15 years and didnt know who the 'Jesus'was because it said he had a brother called James! He knew that Jesus was the Son of God though!This is simply ludicrous, Jesus, Joseph and James on the same burial box and the owner doesnt catch on. What about all the other people that may have handled it during its murky past, I take it they didnt recognise the names either.An Arab antiques dealer with no knowledge of the founder of the Jerusalem church, the Messiah or the messiah's father is beyond belief.I am sure it is just a matter of time before this is exposed as a fake. But that will probably make no difference to the true believer, they will say that the claim that it is a fake will be a hoax!I really think they should have waited a bit longer before triumphantly claiming this as genuine. You also have the possibility that it has nothing to do with the god-man Jesus, as these three names are very common.It still doesnt prove Jesus was divine either, just that he may have existed. Hardly anything to get excited about, unless you are Roman Catholic and the perpetual virginity of Mary is jettisoned, although im sure there will be some ambiguous wording to allow them to keep that particular fantasy entact.Best WishesBrian------------------
Remembering events that never happened is a dangerous thing![This message has been edited by Brian Johnston, 11-19-2002]

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Originally posted by joz:

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Originally posted by tenchi:
Ossuary Of Jesus’ Brother Backs Up Biblical Accounts

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After nearly 2,000 years, historical evidence for the existence of Jesus has come to light literally written in stone. An inscription has been found on an ancient bone box, called an ossuary, that reads James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus"

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I hate to mention this but shouldn`t it read brother of Yahshua (Joshua?)?

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The name Jesus comes from the Greek Iesous not the Aramaic form...

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The quote James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus" is the english translation.The writing on the ossuary is in aramaic.Best WishesBria------------------
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Originally posted by joz:

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Originally posted by Brian Johnston:
The quote James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus" is the english translation.

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The writing on the ossuary is in aramaic.

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Thats kind of my point shouldn`t Yahshua translate from aramaic to Joshua rather than Jesus.....

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The report here: Whoops! Page Not Found | Discovery reads:"The 20 Aramaic letters etched on a side of the newly revealed ossuary read "Ya'akov bar Yosef akhui di Yoshua," or "James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus."So obviously the translators have translated Yoshua as 'Jesus' for the less knowledgable christians out there.Here is another interesting article:http://www.bibleinterp.com/articles/Ossuaries.htm"With regard to the authenticity of the James’ inscription, Dr. Rochelle Altman argues that the ossuary and the first half of the inscription are probably authentic but that the second half of the inscription, the part which reads brother of Jesus, is not. She shows that it is written by a second hand in a very different script. Whereas the first part of the inscription is carefully written by a skilled stone carver who formed and placed the letters with skill, the second part is clearly done by a hand not trained in cutting letters into stone. The letters are uneven and inconsistently formed, some letters are simply done incorrectly, and the writer cannot even keep to a straight line. Altman thinks that this second part of the inscription was probably done a few centuries after the ossuary was originally made.It seems that there are some serious doubts about the authenticity of the ossuary already. Christians adding text to support their messiah, memories of the Josephus forgery come to mind.Bria------------------
Remembering events that never happened is a dangerous thing!

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Originally posted by funkmasterfreaky:
Something i wonder about is why is it damaged? You would think that they would be very careful about moving something like this now wouldn't you? Funny that it's damaged. Maybe i'm paranoid but the damaging of archeological finds that would support anything biblical seems fairly common place. I wonder why that is?

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Funky.It wouldnt matter if it is damaged, it has been very well documented and photgraphed, so it could even disappear and it would make no difference, it has been catalogued so the details are there for everyone to see.Incidently, archaeology of the near east is a very big part of my research, and the worst offenders for deliberately destroying archaeological data were christian archaeologists. The problem was that most werent qualified archaeologists, they were theologians hwo happened to have the funding, but they went looking for data to support the Bible and eveything else was ignored and dumped. There are also a few claims from people that assisted on digs of christian 'archaeologists' deliberatly destroying negative data or even planting positive data.People will go to any lengths to make the Bible into something it isnt.Bria------------------
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