World's Happiest People? You Gotta Be Kidding!

Islamic terrorism is a recent development and has a lot more to do with western greed than with religion. As the Turkish Empire-- the Sick Man of Europe-- lost power the other western powers exploited the situation and screwed everyone in the middle east. This went on for a couple of hundred years and culminated with the Zionist rape-- continuing rape-- of Palestine. Prior to these events Islamic nations were damned peaceful and very civilized compared to Christian dominated ones. It is history though your blinders will likely never let you see it.------------------
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Bombast doesn't impress me, buz. I have, in fact, read several histories of Islam. I've read quite enough to know that you haven't read much of anything and just spew what you want to believe. I am also bright enough to notice that you are biasing the issue in your favor by pointing out only one side of the story. What I did not say was that Islam had no violent episodes, yet this is the statement to which you responded. This is dishonest. I'd be ashamed, but judging by how often christian apologists resort to this kind of garbage, I must conclude that God likes deceit. What I did say is that relative to Christianity's blood baths, Islam has a very clean record. Why did you not mention christian massacres, buz? Failed to read that part of the history books? Why didn't you mention that the Quran specifically commands that the Jews and Christians be left alone? Why didn't you mention that the Islamic rulers had no problem with the Christian's making pilgrimages to their Holy Sites until the Christians started making a mess of things with their bad behavior? Christians were allowed missions and churches in the middle east until the western armies showed up and started killing everyone in their way. Why wasn't this mentioned? Why not also mention that after the crusaders had been repelled by Saladin, the christian churches WERE NOT destroyed as the Christians had done to the mosques in towns they conquored, but remained open to any Christian who wished to come in peace to worship? The keys to these churches were given to Muslim families so that the fueding christian sects could not deny one another the rights to visit.

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Underlying all this was the quiet march of the true gospel of Jesus to eventually inspire the freedom, reformation and measure of enlightment enjoyed by the West.

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Freedom, reformation and enlightenment have come with the decline of Christianity's strangle hold, not as a result of it. That freedom and enlightenment came to us via Islam, not that freedom and enlightenment are Islamic. Its just that Islam didn't spend its energy destroying information. Christianity just threw Europe into the dark ages.------------------
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Historically that's one of the shortest roads to national ruin available, bar none.

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Yes. This seems to be a big part of what turned the powerful and very advanced Islamic civilization of, say, Saladin's time, into the troubled nations we see in the mid-east today.------------------
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I wouldn't put the start of the fall at Saladin, either. I mentioned him as a reference to a good strong period of the civilization, not as the beginning of the end.I'd say it was during the rule of the Ottoman turks that things really went bad, weakening the empire and making it vulnerable to European colonialism. This is not much different than what you said.------------------
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In the meantime, I suggest you read up on some pretty "scary" stuff in the life history of the prophet Muhammed and "scary" statements he wrote in his book concerning his prescribed treatment for those who refuse to espouse his religion.

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Yeah, I agree. Damned scary.------------------
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