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Author Topic:   The Big Bang and Absolute Zero
Buzsaw
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Message 50 of 56 (464337)
04-24-2008 9:54 PM


Some problematic factors relative to alleged absolute zero are:
1. There was no place/area in which it could have existed.
2. There was no place/area in which it could have expanded into.
3. There was no time in which it could have existed.
4. It satisfies none of the LOTs.
Edited by Buzsaw, : as designated in context
Edited by Buzsaw, : fix tech error in first edit

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 52 of 56 (464471)
04-25-2008 6:46 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by Percy
04-25-2008 5:58 AM


No Absolute Zero
Percy writes:
There was no alleged absolute zero. As was explained in the the first reply in this thread (Message 3) and elaborated on in subsequent posts, the universe began in a small, dense extremely hot state, definitely not absolute zero.
Then I would assume that the problems I've cited would apply to the extremely hot state, having no place to exist, no outside of and no time in which it could have existed.
Is this state called the singularity? If not what would you call it?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 54 of 56 (464490)
04-25-2008 10:18 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by Rahvin
04-25-2008 7:51 PM


Re: No Absolute Zero
Rahven writes:
But again, saying that the spacial dimensions were smaller than they are today, even to the degree where the entirety of the Universe was compressed to a size analogous to a modern atom, still does not suggest there is "no place" in which the matter and energy of the Universe could exist.
Your phrase does not suggest there is "no place" in which the matter and energy of the Universe could exist implies a place in which the matter and energy of the Universe could exist, does it not? If so, when Universe was T=0 what place/area did it exist in? If you say "no place" then we're back to square one relative to my problem that there was no place for the singularity to have existed.
As well, the 1LoT which we observe as a law of of science apparantly did not apply unless the alleged singularity was eternal.
What it seems to boil down to is that the singularity and the Big Bang model has as many, if not more unknowns as the Buzsaw ID creationist model.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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