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Author Topic:   The Big Bang is NOT Scientific
AdminPhat
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Message 2 of 301 (202930)
04-27-2005 7:08 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by lost-apathy
04-24-2005 1:25 PM


Hello, and welcome to EvC, lost-apathy!
I am not much of a scientist..(I am the faith/belief type guy...)
but I sense that your post is a bit too long and without a focus.
Perhaps you should start a topic with a title such as
Is there any evidence against an infinite universe?
A lot depends on which philosophy and type of topic that you wish to expound upon.
Big Bang and Cosmology?
Did the universe begin in a vast cataclysm billions of years ago, or with God's immortal words just some thousands of years ago? How do Creationism and science explain the universe we see today?
Faith and Belief?
Is God an objective reality or a subjective concept?
Redo your post. Bring it back to this thread and show it to us.
If we approve it, we will start it as a new thread.
I respect your desire to learn and to express yourself, however! You are only going to get smarter if you listen as much as talk and have an open mind towards other belief concepts.
Keep it up!

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Message 5 of 301 (203104)
04-27-2005 6:04 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by lost-apathy
04-27-2005 8:32 AM


Better....lets consider what needs to be said
lost apathy writes:
ok i edited it, now how is it?
Better.
Lets review it a moment, shall we?
For starters i would like to point out a few things. I honestly think the big bang theory is not scientific at all, and I will tell you why.
There are certain points of the big bang theory that i believe and certain points that i think are completely bogus.
Do you actually know the theory? Have you read it? Can you explain it?
The theory that space and time were created with the big bang does not make sense at all. The evidence supporting the big bang only pertain to matter. The redshifts are based on observations made on matter not space or time.
Since you are making a scientific assertion, you need to be able to defend your position...with facts and not feelings.
Matter and space for one are two different things. We cannot see space, cannot test it, and is basically nothing. According to current science there is no way to change space.
Read Percys comment in Post#2 above. Percy is the founder and originator of this forum. He and I do not agree on our theology, but we do share a love of wisdom and of helping out new members, such as yourself. I believe in God, but we cannot see God. We cannot even test for Him. Some say He does not exist, and I say He does.
Matter is the only observable thing in this universe, making time and space two completely different subjects, which in turn make it impossible to prove that space and time is changable by observing matter.
Not really. I am observing your thoughts in words. Are words matter, or ideas? Are you only matter?
But what I do not understand is why the big bang is accepted so much in the scientific community.
Do we know many scientists? Do we know how they arrive at conclusions?
It seems like humans are extremely limited to what we can see, for all we know billions of big bangs might be going on in the universe right now.(Without the space time idea)
Speculations are fun but they can go on forever! We each could be in a different universe for all we actually know! What would be my point? What is your point?
Science is only based on the observable, what is not observable is not science. This in turn makes the big bang theory not science at all, more of a religion.
Which is my department! So...do you believe in God? Are you religious? What forum would you place this topic in? Tell us more and continue with this topic.
Who agrees?
I agree with you as an individual with an opinion.
It is my job to find out why you think as you do, and where you want to begin your dialogue. It is great to lose ones apathy. It is better to explain ones belief and share ones passion!
I am saving you future trouble were you to release a post and have everyone ask you many of these same questions.
Tell me also...Faith and Belief or Universe and Cosmology? I see these as your only options.
This message has been edited by AdminPhat, 04-27-2005 04:13 PM

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