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Message 23 of 129 (245500)
09-21-2005 2:39 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Ben!
09-18-2005 8:27 PM


Re: Light and Energy
Hi Ben,
I believe that amplitude of a light wave is a description of the "brightness/Intensity" of the light. Intensity of light does not give a measurement of the lights energy but the amount of photons hitting a measuring device or eyeball. An example would be the low intensity light of Xray which has more energy than the luminous halogen lamp. The frequency of the wave describes the classification of light or electromagnetic energy being measured and it's associated energy. ie: Cosmic radiation--->Gamma--->Visable spectrum..Infrared. etc...frequency being the amount of waves 'hitting'. Like trying to stand in the 'white wash' on the North shore in Hawaii, the sheer number of waves hitting over a period of time "frequency" will depend on whether you get out to the point break or flounder in the wash sampling the taste of the reef. This may be over simplistic and unsafisticated..or out and out wrong. Perhaps some resident QM gurus have insight?

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Message 30 of 129 (246552)
09-26-2005 1:08 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by madeofstarstuff
09-21-2005 4:59 PM


Re: Light and Energy
madeofstarstuff writes:
I don't think that intensity of light and energy of a photon have anything to do with each other
Did you read my post?
First off no one knows what energy is.
Secondly the energy is a result of the affects the photons have on matter. IE: electrons making quantum jumps within the valances. The greater the frequency the greater the excitation of atoms, which gives off the energy as heat and light.
The element affected will determine what jumps and this will determine what color the light is.
Amplitude will determine how bright this light is.
Of course this could all be wrong as I am drawing on 30 year old information.

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Message 37 of 129 (246977)
09-28-2005 1:50 PM


Dr. Milo Wolff discovered that the duality of light confounding the ability to associate vectors in the particulate photon was solved in 1986. I will quote a summary written by him in 1990 which Ben may find of interest.
Dr. Milo Wolff writes:
The Wave Structure of fundamental Particles evolved over five years. It began with a simple speculation that waves in Space could explain the de Broglie wavelength. It continued to agree with more laws and observations than I first expected and I was amazed. The 'Particle' is two identical spherical waves travelling radially in opposite directions so that together they form a spherical standing wave.The wave which travels inward towards the center is called an In-Wave, and the wave travelling outward is an Out-Wave. The nominal location of the 'Partical' is the Wave-Center, but as must be true for any charged Particle, it has presence everywhere in Space because the charged forces extend throughout the Universe.
How do Solid Bodies form from Waves?-The solid crystal array is a matrix of atoms held rigidly in space. How are the atoms suspended in space? We must conclude that the crystal's rigidity derives from fixed standing waves propagating in a rigid wave medium.Calculations for diamonds and nuclear structure yields an enormous rigidity. This is really a separate argument about the rigidity of space, which is one of its properties.
What is a Light 'Photon'? -Two Spherical Standing Waves
(SSW) oscillators exchange energy much like classical coupled oscillators, such as electric circuits or joined pendulums. The coupling provided by the non-linear centers of the resonances (high Wave-Density Wave - Centers) allows them to shift frequency patterned by the modulation of each other's In and Out-Waves. Since significant coupling can only occure between two oscillators which possess the same resonant elements, the frequency (energy) take place between two resonances, energy seems to be transported from the center of one resonance to another. We observe a loss of energy where frequency decreases and added energy where it increases. The exchange appears to travel with the speed of the In-Waves of the receiving resonance which is c, the velocity of light. When large numbers of changes occure together, we can sample part of it and see a beam of light (which causes the continuous electromagnetic waves of Modern Physics). When single exchanges occure we see 'photons' as discrete Standing Wave interactions. Thus the transitory modulated waves travelling between two resonances create the illusion of the 'photon particle'.

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Message 39 of 129 (246997)
09-28-2005 3:00 PM
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09-28-2005 2:48 PM


Re: Light and Energy
madeofstarstuff writes:
Why this is so, and what frequency and energy have to do with one another outside of just saying that E=hf, is what Ben is asking about, I assume.
Please read the above summary by Dr. Wolff as it addresses this very relationship quite concisley IMO. edit typo.**
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Message 42 of 129 (247018)
09-28-2005 3:50 PM
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09-28-2005 3:35 PM


Sure, here is a link that may be of interest in regard to light. Electromagnetic Radiation

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Message 73 of 129 (250876)
10-11-2005 4:58 PM
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10-11-2005 3:55 AM


Re: unknowns
Hello Simple,
Simple writes:
It is in the times when the limits of our knowledge are reached on this physical universe, and we say, "I don't know" that the spiritual must enter as a contender.
Why?
Simple writes:
So I find it interesting when people say they really just do not really know on key issues, like energy, time, gravity, Is the universe finite, or infinite? Straight, or curved, etc.
I find it interesting when people would rather say..."here be dragons." when the limits of they're knowlege is reached.
And to answer your questions. The universe is infinite according to recent obervations made by NASA.

"One is punished most for ones virtues" Fredrick Neitzche

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Message 77 of 129 (250943)
10-11-2005 6:50 PM
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10-11-2005 5:39 PM


Re: unknowns
What tipped the scales...? Data from WMAP. The universe seems to be at a critical density.
WMAP Site Help Page Error

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