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ramoss
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Message 136 of 744 (327705)
06-30-2006 8:56 AM
Reply to: Message 134 by inkorrekt
06-29-2006 10:55 PM


Re: So is with Evolution
You are right on. Some theories become facts as and when evidence is provided.Other theories stay as theories because, there is no evidence.
You don't understand the relationship between 'theories' and 'facts'.
Theories are models to explain the facts. For example, the THEORY of evolution is a model to explain how the FACT of evolution works. It is
a FACT that species change. It is a fact that species go extinct, it is a fact that new species appear.
The THEORY of evolution is a model to explain the mechanism of how this happens.
Just like Gravity. The fact is that if you have a brick, and drop it, it falls to the earth as a certain rate of speed. The 'law' of gravity
describes what exactly happens (32 ft per second per second).
The THEORY of gravity is a model to try to explain why this happens.

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ramoss
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Message 141 of 744 (328282)
07-02-2006 1:38 PM
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07-02-2006 11:29 AM


Re: So is with Evolution
Yes, really, It hzs been observed that new species have arisen in the last 100 years. So, yes, really, new species have arisen.
I am sure you have been given plenty of examples. If not, I can give you those examples. Should I? Or would you reject it out of hand because it does not fit into your preconceptions?

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ramoss
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Message 143 of 744 (328300)
07-02-2006 3:36 PM
Reply to: Message 139 by Rob
07-02-2006 11:29 AM


Re: So is with Evolution
Define 'kind'. Give straight forward definition that can actually be used.
And you see, when it comes to changes in families.. you have two very closely related species. Each starts taking small steps of character traits away from the 'parent' species... but in opposite direction.
As the tiny steps add up, each succeeding generation is the same 'kind'
as the previous one, but they no longer are the same 'kind' as the
parent species, no of it's 'cousin' species.
It's all done with baby steps.

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