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Topic: A Working Definition of God
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jar
Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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I think He did it best when he said; "I am." Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: To Whom are you asking this question?
Percy, I know for a fact the Hebrews are mentioned by Egyptian artefact and that they have found the lost city. It was even on discovery channel. Your side just simply ignore evidence when it suits you. Mike, you're gonna have to go further than simply making an assertion like that. If you know of any mention of Hebrews in Egypt before about 6BC, can you please present it? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: To Whom are you asking this question?
Well, first, semitic people. That in no way implies Hebrews. So there is nothing more than assertion there. Second, the matter of the bricks might be of some interest if it were documented (I've seen that allegation but it's never attributed or supported by evidence) but even then it is pretty damn weak support when there is simply no other evidence of either a large hebrew population, an Exodus, or any support of an entrance into Cannaan. The earliest documented case I know of for the presence of Hebrews in Egypt is from a scarab dating from around 6BC. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: To Whom are you asking this question?
Doesn't the Rosetta stone mention Hebrews? Nope. But even if it did, it dates from around 196BC, over a thousand years after the alleged Exodus. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: To Whom are you asking this question?
Ah, the old "habiru" or "ibiru" or "Hapiru" gambit. Actually that's some of the strongest evidence that the Exodus and conquest of Canaan never happened. There was no one people called the Hibiru, but instead it was a somewhat derogotry name used similar to "gypsy" to refer to homeless wanderers and brigands. They don't seem to have any one ethnicity and certainly no organization or structure. And they are discussed over many, many centuries in locations from Egypt in the south to the upper reaches of Mesopotamia. It was term common to Egypt, Sumeria, Akaadian, Hittite and Mittani civilizations. They were often hired as mercenaries and get discussed quite often in the Amarna letters. The Amarna letters are important; they were written at about the time Joshua was supposedly conquering Canaan. Sadly, none of the heads of the city states there seemed to notice, even those ruling cities he had supposedly destroyed. But the Hapiru are mentioned. They were being hired by the different heads of the City-States in a series of inter-city wars that were going on at the time. Sometimes they are on one side, often then on the other. But nowhere are they seen or shown as a unified, organized or even particular nation. You can read the Amarna Letters here. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Trying to head back towards the thread.
Mike, there are references but they date from the time of the Kingdoms on. Nothing early. And finding a city called Ramses is not really adding any weight. Folk... We are getting way away from the subject. While the Exodus myth is interesting, it has NOTHING to do with this thread. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: To Whom are you asking this question?
Well, if you want to discuss this further you might want to start yet another thread on the subject. It's certainly been one of interest here and has come up often. But it has nothing to do with this thread. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 202 of 332 (201217)
04-22-2005 3:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 201 by Faith 04-22-2005 3:09 PM
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Death
No Faith, if you read Paul's statement as you seem to, you deny everything else in the Bible. Only Paul hints (and that only if you misread what Paul's saying) that death came into the world because of some alleged Fall. In fact Genesis itself is based on the fact that death already existed and was a normal part of life. In fact, the whole expulsion from the Garden of Eden had no purpose other than keeping the status quo, the norm. I have got to ask you, have you ever read the Bible? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 269 of 332 (201599)
04-23-2005 9:53 PM
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Reply to: Message 268 by Faith 04-23-2005 9:39 PM
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'Course that's not what Jesus said. LOL But that's for another thread. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 273 of 332 (201626)
04-23-2005 11:10 PM
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Reply to: Message 272 by Faith 04-23-2005 11:08 PM
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Like I said, it's not a subject for this thread. But it's certainly one that we've covered before and likely will address again. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 299 of 332 (201762)
04-24-2005 1:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 298 by Faith 04-24-2005 1:39 PM
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Re: Judging witness reports / a puzzle
But that's not what he said. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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