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creationist theory on death of dinosaurs

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crashfrog
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06-23-2003 9:16 PM 		Reply to: Message 2 by mike the wiz
06-23-2003 7:23 PM

Juvenile representatives of every terrestrial, air-breathing kind
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What's a kind?
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06-23-2003 9:29 PM 		Reply to: Message 4 by mike the wiz
06-23-2003 9:19 PM

besides whats your point?
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My point is, what does "kind" mean in this context? It's not a level of taxonomy I'm familiar with. How do I know if two animals are in the same kind or different kinds?
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crashfrog
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06-23-2003 9:44 PM 		Reply to: Message 6 by mike the wiz
06-23-2003 9:35 PM

i have to be honest Crash i think your nit picking a bit
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It's not nitpicking at all.
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If you're going to say that Noah only had to take two (or seven) of each "kind" onto the Ark, then to know how many animals that is, I have to know what a kind is.
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If you're going to point out certain modern-day animals that are members of the same "kind", then to analyze that claim I have to know how broad a classification "kind" represents.
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Are all modern canines in the same "kind"? Are all modern apes? Does that include humans, which are closer genetically to other apes than dogs are to other canines?
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crashfrog
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06-29-2003 3:02 PM 		Reply to: Message 27 by DumbasaRock
06-29-2003 2:17 PM

Was Noah given the ability to know which egg of every dinosaur was male or female.
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I dunno, was he? That's not supported by the bible, certainly. But I guess if you feel free to invoke miracles, you can propose anything you like. Why not just have god beam him eggs of appropriate sex?
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You might be interested to know that, in alligators, the sex of the egg is determined not by gametes but by temperature. Could Noah's ark have been sufficiently temp-controlled to ensure both male and female eggs?
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plus he could get an egg from one nest and one from another to enable diversity in breeding later.
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Two eggs is not a diverse population, no matter where they're from.
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