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mark24
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Message 60 of 83 (12766)
07-04-2002 3:37 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by Dr_Tazimus_maximus
07-04-2002 2:55 PM


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Originally posted by Dr_Tazimus_maximus:
TB, there is one thing that you have never answered, or if you have then I have missed it as your reply would have been to someone else. How do you explain the geological/chronological fossil deposition. I have looked at your statements re: paleontology and have not seen this addressed. A flood, by any hydrological models or theories that I am familiar with would result in far more of a jumble than is observed in the field. This by the way includes the models by Baumgardner at Los Alamos. Prior to serious discussion of the depositions of rocks maybe a complete discussion of this very important area of biology/geology would be prudent. As I am currently on vacation any reply from myself will be a little late in coming. Hope that you are having a good month.

Dr T,
TB believes that homology, hydrodynamic sorting, biogeography, & relative mobility are responsible for fossil ordering. At the time of writing he hasn't told us how these factors interact to produce the fossil record as we see it.
In fact he has produced relative mobility (based on size) to explain the ordering of the Equidae fossils, that is, the larger species could outrun the flood better than smaller ones. It is not to be, however as there are examples where the increasing size trends are reversed in certain clades. This means smaller Equidae are found above larger examples, in clado/stratigraphic order, but certainly not what is expected under the flood model.
http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=5&t=45&m=40#40 (latest at the time of writing).
Mark
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[This message has been edited by mark24, 07-04-2002]

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mark24
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Message 62 of 83 (12784)
07-04-2002 8:25 PM
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07-04-2002 8:10 PM


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Originally posted by wehappyfew:
That's silly, Mark...
If TB is retreating to relative mobility to explain Equidae, then TB's frantic hand-waving has finally unhinged his reasoning ability. I say that not because relative mobility in a Flood is a silly idea (although it is), but because TB has pegged the end of the Flood at the K-T boundary! All his Equidae are post-Flood variation in only a few thousand years - evolution faster than any observed. He has totally forgotten how his own model (fails to) fit together.

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