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Author Topic:   An educational angle we all could live with? (Philosophy of Science)
NosyNed
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Message 43 of 91 (209235)
05-18-2005 1:14 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by Limbo
05-18-2005 1:02 AM


You want special treatment?
Well, Ill go ahead and tell the scientific community to let ID join the science club, since only official club members can be taken seriously enough to have their predictions tested.
That isn't the way it has worked for any other new idea. The proponents do the tests and demonstrate that there is some value in the idea. Then others attempt to reproduce the results to see if they still stand up.
After all that the ideas are given some degree of consideration. It may take awhile, of course, science as always been pretty conservative.
However, the ball is in the ID court. When they can find their racquet and give it a lobe over the net they might be taken a bit seriously.
You can't expected to be taken seriously if you can't play the rough, tough game that the real scientists play.
So, lets mail the ID people their 'super-secret mainstream science community decoder rings' and membership number right away, and then we will get down to business once everyone is in the clubhouse.
No ring is necessary, just do the dammed work!
As for falsification of evolutionary theory this has been posted a bunch of time in various places in this board. I'm not sure you will get it if it is stated yet again.
This message has been edited by NosyNed, 05-18-2005 01:17 AM

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NosyNed
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Message 80 of 91 (209889)
05-20-2005 1:23 AM
Reply to: Message 73 by Limbo
05-19-2005 5:30 AM


Assumptions Creeping In
If they want to believe a designer is behind life, they are free to do so...and tell them why science cant confirm or deny a designer.
If this isnt stressed, assumptions creep in.
Assumptions don't creep in. They are pushed, forced and shoved in. This is done rarely by the scientists like Dawkins and very, very frequently by those who claim to be on the side of religious beliefs. It is the literalists who are all over the media and here claiming that various scientific knowledge is "atheist", "immoral" and the like.
In todays enviroment in places like the less enlightened USA I agree that it is necessary to remind students that science has nothing and can have nothing to say about the existance of God. We are lucky here that this is rarely an issue.

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