Rahvin writes:
However, to return to the "many steps" analogy, we can predict that, looking backwards, we should eventually see some steps, somewhere. We do see them, even if we don't see all of them, and they look exactly as we would expect if we had taken a long walk.
Imo, that's a
stretch.
Buzsaw writes:
3. Your analogies imply ID.
How so?
The alleged steps of evolution progress on a trail into complexity, order and intelligence.
Buzsaw writes:
4. Whoever is telling to you that a normal person cannot walk 1000 miles?
Those who claim "micro" evolution cannot become "macro" evolution are insisting that something prevents small changes from adding up to changes large enough to result in seperate species. It's like saying that something will prevent me from reaching a certain distance by walking - and yet Creationists and IDists insist that there is something preventing "macro" evolution, without proposing any mechanism that would do so.
All we're claiming is that there's not enough traceable steps to convince us that you have enough to trace it all the way back to the primodial soup. (My question to Taz was to assertain which creos were alleging that a man could not walk a thousand miles. It appeared to me as a play on his part to make fools out of creos which he tends to do at every opportunity.)
It would be more like "we don't know how we got the wheel. Maybe somebody found a wheel, maybe "god" gave it to us, and maybe a space alien gave it to us. Or maybe some smart guy figured it out after watching a rock roll downhill." Evolution only requires life, not abiogenesis. Evolution fits just as well regardless of what originally brought life to Earth.
My point was no wheel, no automobile as in, no abiogenesis, no evolution, no matter how you cut it. That's all I was saying. How it came about was irrevelant to my comment.
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