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Taz
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Message 4 of 223 (371159)
12-20-2006 1:29 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Kader
12-20-2006 12:09 PM


Kader writes:
I want to know what makes you believe you are right? What drives you to defend your belief?
I grew up indoctrinated to be a christian fundamentalist. So, I'd say that from my earliest memories to my late teen years I was constantly being reminded of god by family and community. I defended my belief back then because I believed we lived in a magical world and that hating people was how you would find god.
On a personal side note, I now believe that religion does more harm than good when it comes to finding god. Take me, for example. After I realized that the world wasn't governed by magic or that love, not hate, is good, I abandoned all hope of finding god (if he/she/it exists). In other words, if there really is a god out there and that he/she/it is all love and all that stuff, religion is either misleading people into the wrong direction or causing them to abandon the journey.

George Absolutely Stupid Bush the Younger

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Taz
Member (Idle past 3321 days)
Posts: 5069
From: Zerus
Joined: 07-18-2006


Message 9 of 223 (371183)
12-20-2006 3:22 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Kader
12-20-2006 2:00 PM


Kader writes:
How is relations with your family now ?
I'd say pretty good. Some don't know I've abandoned my faith and some do. Those that do don't mind and those that don't don't mind.
How is it that you didn't make excuses up or simply put, why aren't you like so many religious people..in denial of reality as perceived by science ?
It's not just the magic versus science part that made me lose my faith. Being religious require you to be hateful. I hated black people, muslim people, hindu people, buddhist people, gay people, etc. Christian fundamentalists will come out and downright deny that they hate. But trust me, deep down they preach nothing but hate. That's how they can keep their identity.
Not just christianity. Practically every religion that's ever existed thrived on hate. Without hate, any religion would lose its identity and dies.
If god (if he/she/it exists) wants to throw me into a pit of fire for all eternity just because I refuse to hate, then is it really worth it to worship such an egoistic maniac?
Simply put, oen of the biggest factors that made me doubt my faith was meeting a gay person, befriending him, and seeing how he didn't have vampire teeth and slithered tongue like I was taught gay people were. That and basic kinematics in physics.
And do you miss/regret anything ?
I am a completely different person now. I don't think women are inferior like I used to to think. I don't think gay people are monsters like I used to think. I help other people not because I was promised heavenly rewards or hellish punishment. I help simply because we're all in this together! I don't need a burning bush to tell me killing, stealing, etc. are wrong.
I have lots of regrets. One of those was telling a gay person he need to find jesus.
By the way, I still keep my mouth shut at family meetings even when some of them rant about how evil them gays are.

George Absolutely Stupid Bush the Younger

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Taz
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Posts: 5069
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Joined: 07-18-2006


Message 12 of 223 (371186)
12-20-2006 3:36 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by jar
12-20-2006 3:33 PM


jar writes:
I believe in salvation mostly for comfort reasons.
Does this have anything to do with the fact that you're getting quite old... even for an ape? I often find that old people pay more attention to the afterlife and whatnot more than the rest of us.

George Absolutely Stupid Bush the Younger

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