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Topic: homosexuality and the Bible
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Suspended Member (Idle past 1269 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: 01-12-2004
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Message 34 of 183 (51187)
08-19-2003 6:13 PM
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Sexual prefence is a choice, its not a disease or a condition, and it doesnt happen genetically. Your not born gay. ------------------ "I believe in christianity as I believe the sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else."-C.S. Lewis holla at me for any reason at: messenjahjr@yahoo.com
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Well I feel that I dont need to support what I said, its obvious. I dont think its hereditary either. Maybe those in the family who are gay influence that persons choices. ------------------ "I believe in christianity as I believe the sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else."-C.S. Lewis holla at me for any reason at: messenjahjr@yahoo.com [This message has been edited by messenjaH, 08-21-2003]
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Suspended Member (Idle past 1269 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: 01-12-2004
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Message 64 of 183 (51486)
08-21-2003 9:37 AM
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Reply to: Message 61 by DC85
08-20-2003 6:30 PM
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If it was wrong why did your God let him feel it?
Uh... free will. ------------------ "I believe in christianity as I believe the sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else."-C.S. Lewis holla at me for any reason at: messenjahjr@yahoo.com
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Suspended Member (Idle past 1269 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: 01-12-2004
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Message 65 of 183 (51487)
08-21-2003 9:40 AM
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Reply to: Message 62 by Mammuthus
08-21-2003 3:53 AM
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I still notice you have absolutely avoided the biological fact that a significant component of homosexual behavior is genetic i.e. hereditary in origin...
Please explain how that is a fact? ------------------ "I believe in christianity as I believe the sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else."-C.S. Lewis holla at me for any reason at: messenjahjr@yahoo.com
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Suspended Member (Idle past 1269 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: 01-12-2004
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Message 88 of 183 (51591)
08-21-2003 3:46 PM
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Reply to: Message 80 by Rrhain
08-21-2003 12:18 PM
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It's "free will" to like Rocky Road ice cream? It's "free will" to like purple is a wonderful color but orange is hideous? It's "free will" to like red heads over brunettes? It's "free will" to have that little spot right above the inside of your right elbow that if brushed in just the right way makes you shiver all over?
That was the most pointless comment I have ever seen. ------------------ "I believe in christianity as I believe the sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else."-C.S. Lewis holla at me for any reason at: messenjahjr@yahoo.com
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Message 90 of 183 (51595)
08-21-2003 4:06 PM
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The role of genetics in male sexual orientation was investigated by pedigree and linkage analyses on 114 families of homosexual men. Increased rates of same-sex orientation were found in the maternal uncles and male cousins of these subjects, but not in their fathers or paternal relatives, suggesting the possibility of sex-linked transmission in a portion of the population. DNA linkage analysis of a selected group of 40 families in which there were two gay brothers and no indication of nonmaternal transmission revealed a correlation between homosexual orientation and the inheritance of polymorphic markers on the X chromosome in approximately 64 percent of the sib-pairs tested. The linkage to markers on Xq28, the subtelomeric region of the long arm of the sex chromosome, had a multipoint lod score of 4.0 (P = 10(-5), indicating a statistical confidence level of more than 99 percent that at least one subtype of male sexual orientation is genetically influenced.
It could be incidental coincidence, I wouldnt say this research proves it happens genetically as a fact. Also as I said before, gays would be influenced by close friends, maybe some of their close friends were their relatives, they might have even been mentors to an extent. Now this is all hypothetical but it is highly likely to happen. As people have many influences in their lives. Their relatives could have influenced their choices. There is two other probable explanations to that research you blatantly considered fact. ------------------ "I believe in christianity as I believe the sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else."-C.S. Lewis holla at me for any reason at: messenjahjr@yahoo.com [This message has been edited by messenjaH, 08-21-2003]
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Message 92 of 183 (51599)
08-21-2003 4:26 PM
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Reply to: Message 91 by mark24
08-21-2003 4:12 PM
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sure. I'm just glad people dont think that about evolution..... (sarcasm OFF) ------------------ "I believe in christianity as I believe the sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else."-C.S. Lewis holla at me for any reason at: messenjahjr@yahoo.com
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Message 93 of 183 (51600)
08-21-2003 4:27 PM
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I just dont understand how its a proven fact when I offered alternative possibilities. I think I'll be able to maintain my confusion too. heh.. ------------------ "I believe in christianity as I believe the sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else."-C.S. Lewis holla at me for any reason at: messenjahjr@yahoo.com
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Message 100 of 183 (51654)
08-21-2003 6:57 PM
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Reply to: Message 95 by mark24
08-21-2003 4:56 PM
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What is so hard to understand? Identical twins are GENETICALLY IDENTICAL. Identical twins that are separated at birth are more likely to both be gay than if they weren't identical. There is a clear & unequivocal link between their genetic identicality & homosexuality. Therefore there is a genetic link to homosexuality. Their friends, guardians, experiences, even countries are different, ie. their environments are different, therefore there is more than their environment that is making them gay. That's the genetic identicality bit, right?
That doesnt mean it's genetic. It could have been a coincidence and obviously a life choice, if both of them choosed the same "way" that doesn't mean it's genetical. If they did the same thing to another pair of identical twins and they both turned out straight you would think nothing of it. There is no direct correlation between their lifestyle choices, and sex preferences. ------------------ "I AM THE MESSENJAH" holla at me for any reason at: messenjahjr@yahoo.com
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