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Author Topic:   Could evolution actually be a spiritual Issue?
Blue Jay
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Message 8 of 19 (462309)
04-02-2008 11:34 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Granny Magda
04-02-2008 10:18 AM


Granny Magda writes:
It presupposes that anyone who is not a practising Christian is somehow in denial of reality, clearly not the case if atheists like myself are correct.
This seems to be the common theme of many religions, though. In my Mormon church services practically every week, I get to hear members of my church testify about their friends in other churches who want so desperately to find the truth, but have been "lead away" by cunning ministers or by Satan himself to believe in other (false) religions. Mormonism is the only true church for us: and all other religions are flawed or false, and full of people who are "lost spiritually."
Of course, none of us actually takes the time to notice that the Baptists and Presbyterians are saying the same things about us: from their standpoint, we're the ones who are "lost spiritually." And, Islam feels that all of us are lost. So, only in assuming the truthfulness your own belief system can you actually state that another belief system or viewpoint is wrong, or "lost spiritually."
ATruthSeeker writes:
...you have to be able to reason that there is a design without a designer and a plan without a planner.
This is a prime example (from the OP) of interpreting the world in terms of one's own viewpoint. Only from the viewpoint of someone who believes in the reality of one's religion, could this line possibly make sense. It is tautological: assumes itself to prove itself. Any such apologetic arguments for Christianity (and, I assume, for other religions, though I'm not familiar with non-Christian apologetics) are completely tautological.
The underlining assumption of the OP is the old "evolution is just another form of religion" argument, wherein science is nothing but the expression of the belief system of a group of people. Assuming this idea to be true (even though it's not), there might be a case for ATruthSeeker's argument, but then, the implication would be that all religions are simply the expressions of people who feel "lost spiritually."
Unless, of course, there is a single "true" religion, in which case everybody but the sincere practitioners of that religion are automatically "lost spiritually." This means that any random person in the world is automatically seen as "spiritually lost" by a majority of everybody else.

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