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Author Topic:   A question for believers - why the Bible?
commike37
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Message 38 of 79 (172379)
12-30-2004 7:54 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Jimbo
12-22-2004 6:40 PM


Hey, I saw "The Elegant Universe" in AP Physics!
But anyway, to answer the question: because it's inspired by God.
But what does believing that ultimately come down to? Faith.

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commike37
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Message 42 of 79 (172427)
12-30-2004 10:56 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by macaroniandcheese
12-30-2004 9:50 PM


Stoning in the OT
Actually, that's in the Old Testament. The Jews were governed by these laws, but with the coming of Jesus, we live by His grace, not the law. We can't fulfill the law, but He fulfilled it for us. And our good works come because of grace, not because of the law. And speaking specifically to the situation of adultery, Jesus encountered an adulterer who should've been stoned in John 8:1-11. Instead of stoning her, He forgives her.

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commike37
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Message 45 of 79 (172437)
12-30-2004 11:27 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by macaroniandcheese
12-30-2004 11:03 PM


Re: Stoning in the OT
jesus was a jew. he said that he did not come to change the law.
Jesus actually frequently angererd the Pharisees because he wasn't following the OT rule (or at least their interpretation of it). However, he was following God, so he certainly wasn't sinning. And each time his wisdom prevailed over that of the Pharisees.
read your bible and stop listening to your pastor.
FYI, I'm not that type of person. Don't make false accusations.
Also, are you trying to imply that the Bible is not inerrant?

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commike37
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Message 47 of 79 (172440)
12-30-2004 11:48 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by macaroniandcheese
12-30-2004 11:37 PM


Re: Stoning in the OT
2 Timothy 3:16 says that all Scripture is God-breathed (inspired by God), so why would the same God who inspired both the gospels and the letters of Paul have these two contradict each other?
John 10:35 "The Scripture cannot be broken."

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commike37
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Message 59 of 79 (172868)
01-01-2005 10:00 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by Brian
01-01-2005 3:48 AM


Do you realize how many times in the New Testament you read something along the lines of this:
And this occured to fulfill the prophecy of [some prophet], which said, "[quote from the prophet in the Old Testament]."

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commike37
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Message 60 of 79 (172869)
01-01-2005 10:05 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by ramoss
01-01-2005 10:19 AM


If you want to levy such accusations, then how about you back them up and show how he was doing that? Anyone can make those claims, but a good poster will actually back them up.

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commike37
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Message 67 of 79 (173097)
01-02-2005 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by Brian
01-02-2005 2:51 AM


This is what circular reasoning looks like:
The state can not exist without the individuals.
Individuals can not have rights protected without the state.
Individual over state.
State over individual.
...(It goes around and around, just like a circle)
I don't get how this is circular reasoning. Jesus came long after the prophets, so it's not like they could have collaborated while Jesus was living and make sure everything was consistent.
edit: Also, you said in another post that Jesus was not of the line of David. It looks like somebody hasn't read the (patriarchal) genealogy of Christ. Matthew 1:6a "and Jesse the father of King David." Perhaps you looked at only the matriarchal genealogy.
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commike37
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Message 69 of 79 (173117)
01-02-2005 5:19 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by Brian
01-02-2005 4:30 PM


You're getting off topic here.
So I have a relatively simple question for all of the Christians on the site
If you want to argue that only the Old Testament is true, then you would be Jewish, and this question applies to Christians. If you want to debate this, then you should go to the forum "The Bible: Inaccuracy and Inerrancy." This topic is about why Christians believe in the Bible. It is not about disproving the New Testament. While I could see an argument as to what's the best way to believe the Bible, I don't see an argument saying we shouldn't believe to be topical.

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