And that's the thing. No matter what people ascribe to God, it turns out, it's exactly the same result, statistically, that we would expect if God didn't exist.
Hmm... this is interesting. So either chance does not exist or God does not exist? Could not God cause some things to operate by chance?
Any deviation from chance or natural laws would be evidence to our finite minds of his soverign omnipotent presence. (you do not believe he has done this on occasion, and I do) But maybe there is proof elsewhere. Maybe the proof is in the lives of people. After all, I've been saying that human history is a great power experiment between good/evil arrogance/humility God/Satan human viewpoint/ divine viewpoint.
Hmm... I may be on the verge of a breakthrough tying some things together. God is sovereign which means he has complete control over EVERYTHING. So... what appears as chance to our finite minds must be his sovereign choice (if he exists, which I believe he does).
HOWEVER, God has chosen to delegate some of his sovereignty to his creations so that they may have free-reign over themselves with limited power.
Human free-will is not subject to chance (if it wasn't we might as well roll the dice to see who becomes president, infact we wouldn't even have society for a president), but it is subject to influencing factors (lets keep it simple: good and evil).
So if there is no God and chance is the law of the universe, then why not a 50/50 possibility that what I do is right or wrong? Because I have sovereignty borrowed from God called free-will.
Why, when we look at history do we see great nations rise and fall morality integrity and objectivity come and go? Why, in my life, have I somewhat succeeded in removing my evil choices and increasing my good choices? Yes, I'm quite sure I used to do mostly bad things and now I'm doing much better than 50/50 good/bad.
If chance is the law of the universe, then why is there an ebb and flow of good and evil. Why does it rise and fall apart from chance? Why does it exist at all?
Good exists where we, by our own free-will, have accepted His truth.
Evil exists where we, by our own free-will, have rejected His truth.
Because our decisions are not subject to chance, but the influence of good and evil, is evidence that a supernatural struggle exists. Perhaps chance exists by God's will so that our will is not influenced by His and/or to provide a distinction between our choice and his and/or to provide a sort of backdrop through which this experiment can be fairly carried out. Of course, since our sovereignty is only borrowed from God he can usurp it if he chooses or influence it directly by acting outside of chance, but to do so totally all the time would defeat the purpose of human history in the first place as the great power experiment.
This message has been edited by Hangdawg13, 06-27-2004 03:05 AM
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