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reiverix
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Message 17 of 312 (453884)
02-04-2008 3:35 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by rulerofthisuniverse
02-03-2008 6:07 PM


The trumpet blowing sky fairy who lives in my apple tree has all the characteristics of your god except he is better at chess.
Don't you see where this can go? I can create any being I want and need no proof if I use your line of thinking.

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reiverix
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Message 41 of 312 (453949)
02-04-2008 8:27 PM
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02-04-2008 7:34 PM


Do you agree with my definition of GOD or not?
If you are trying to describe the biblical god, then yes.

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reiverix
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Message 56 of 312 (454018)
02-05-2008 8:14 AM
Reply to: Message 51 by rulerofthisuniverse
02-04-2008 11:55 PM


You're making it difficult because it's plainly obvious that you are only really familiar with the Christian god. Because of this you are setting terms about what god should be, according to your Christian mindset.
I mean have you ever studied Apollo or Athena? There's a whole world of gods out there but you want to make the rules about what a supreme being is. It's like you are laying down a sequence of questions and answers that will eventually end with 'Aha I told you my god exists'.

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reiverix
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Message 95 of 312 (454120)
02-05-2008 4:49 PM
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02-05-2008 2:17 PM


Then maybe a better definition of a god is a being that can convince everyone, with no exceptions, that he is a god.

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reiverix
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Message 112 of 312 (454268)
02-06-2008 8:04 AM
Reply to: Message 107 by rulerofthisuniverse
02-05-2008 7:12 PM


But you are looking for a definition of god, as defined by humans. We might as well be defining thin air.

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reiverix
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Message 129 of 312 (454466)
02-07-2008 8:38 AM
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02-06-2008 11:22 PM


You wanted a definition of god and I gave you one. You didn't like it so you dismiss it. My definition is just as valid as yours but it doesn't look biblical, which is really your problem.

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reiverix
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Message 149 of 312 (454914)
02-09-2008 9:58 AM
Reply to: Message 136 by rulerofthisuniverse
02-08-2008 7:48 PM


Yeah right
You did no such thing.
reiverix writes:
Then maybe a better definition of a god is a being that can convince everyone, with no exceptions, that he is a god.
rulerofthisuniverse writes:
Well that assumes to much, If a God exists why would it need to convince anyone else it exists, as it already knows it exists, to this God it would be self evident.
We don't care if god knows he exists. We only care about if humans know he exists so we can define him.
What you really want is a monopoly on the definition of god. If it suits your religion you will feel more secure about it. You have to face facts here, your posts you a definite trend towards wishful thinking.
Edited by reiverix, : No reason given.

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reiverix
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Message 216 of 312 (455689)
02-13-2008 12:25 PM
Reply to: Message 214 by dogrelata
02-13-2008 11:45 AM


Even if an infinite number of coins are flipped, each outcome has a chance of 100% divided by infinity, which will always be greater than 0%.
I see it. The chances of all heads are exactly the same as any other sequence, no matter how many times we flip the coin.

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reiverix
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Message 293 of 312 (457595)
02-24-2008 10:49 AM
Reply to: Message 277 by rulerofthisuniverse
02-22-2008 7:52 PM


sequences
Lets just flip 1 coin 4 times, now there are 16 possible sequences, these are;
HHHH HHHT TTTH HHTT
THHH TTHH TTHT HTHT
HTHH THTH THTT HTTH
HHTH THHT HTTT TTTT
The chance for all the coins to be the same is 2 times out of 16 or, 1 in 8 or 12.5%
The chance for 3 coins to be the same is 8 times out of 16 or, 1 in 2 or 50%
The chance for 2 coins to be the same is 6 times out of 16 or, 3 in 8 or 37.5%
So here we can see that a sequence of 3 coins flipping the same is more likely than any other sequence. And conversely the sequence of all the coins flipping the same is actually less likely than any other sequence.
Clearly then, all outcomes are not equally probable.
Hold on. The number of sequences does not dictate the probability of flipping any particular sequence. Why do you think it does? Flipping all heads or all tails are two possible outcomes of any sequence at any time.
Think about it. If I flip the coin 4 times and get all heads, do you think that all heads is suddenly eliminated as a possibility for the next 4 flips?
With your bent logic you should be winning the lottery every week.
Edited by reiverix, : No reason given.

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reiverix
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Message 302 of 312 (458481)
02-29-2008 8:48 AM
Reply to: Message 300 by rulerofthisuniverse
02-28-2008 11:21 PM


Groan
I hope your 'mathematician brother' isn't nodding in agreement at your garbage. Let me know when you get past 2nd grade math.

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