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Author Topic:   Do atoms confirm or refute the bible?
DemonScythe
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Message 54 of 153 (364612)
11-18-2006 7:24 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by Juraikken
11-14-2006 1:35 AM


We'd have to see whether he was omniscient as people claim, or just as clueless as the people thousands of years ago.

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DemonScythe
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Message 56 of 153 (365080)
11-21-2006 4:56 AM
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11-21-2006 4:27 AM


From what is written from the bible, it seems he is.
Edit: I mean, from what is written, the bible seems to be filled with concepts that humans accepted a few thousand years ago, implying things like a flat Earth and a geocentrical Earth. It seems as if it's not written by an omniscient being at all, in fact, I even find computer games to sometimes be more profound than the bible.
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DemonScythe
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Message 58 of 153 (365177)
11-21-2006 2:50 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by jar
11-21-2006 12:48 PM


Re: Lots of what might be called Biblical Science
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The same held true of the "Waters Above". It rained and there were no signs of water going back up, so there had to be some mass, a large mass of water that was up there. But since it didn't rain all the time, something had to hold the water up. There had to be some solid dome that had windows in it that could open at times, in different sizes, different places to let the water out. Sometimes they opened a little and you got gentle rain, at other times the windows opened a lot and you got lots of rain.
Really, really good point. And people assumed the night and days were the inner skin of the sky as a hollow ball, and the sky spun around Earth.
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DemonScythe
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Message 60 of 153 (365355)
11-22-2006 10:48 AM
Reply to: Message 59 by Juraikken
11-22-2006 3:14 AM


Yes, it does, with terms like "four corners".
And verses like:
quote:
ISA 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
This implies Earth was in a dome of sorts, by my understanding.
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MAT 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
From a high mountain, it is impossible to see the other side of Earth, unless Earth is either flat, hollowed in or that you possess a large mirror in space, you will not be able to see all the kingdoms.

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DemonScythe
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Message 64 of 153 (365472)
11-22-2006 5:14 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by Juraikken
11-22-2006 12:30 PM


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hmmmm, the "circle" of the earth! if it were a circle why would there be four corners? can you explain to me how you think that quote proves a dome?
Well, the "curtain" thing on a "circle" gives me that impression.
I can't explain why there would be four corners to a circle because the bible's whack!, Mui loco, senor.
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and the second quote uhh, what if the only kingdoms of the world at that time were in the vicinity of that area? it WAS pretty close to Ceasar and he was said to once be the most powerful person in the world.
What if, huh?, what if... what if the bible doesn't know what it's saying at all, that would make more sense than civilizations developing densely in a small area.

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DemonScythe
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Message 66 of 153 (368388)
12-08-2006 8:42 AM
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12-08-2006 8:02 AM


Re: Hello Demonscythe
You made me feel like Mother Nature, lol.

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DemonScythe
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Message 68 of 153 (369034)
12-11-2006 2:22 PM
Reply to: Message 67 by xXGEARXx
12-11-2006 9:24 AM


Re: On the Accuracy of Genesis or Why I believe Genesis is True.
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the Bible is about a relationship. It is not a science lesson.
Then why is it making claims on how Earth was formed? Why is it making claims on how life started?, from my experience, a book about relationship tells how to enhance one, how to make someone else feel loved. Trying to claim such large events would certainly warrant some need for evidence.
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I'm sure it is quite possible.
You're sure it is? You're sure a woman can be created from a man's rib?, you're sure it's possible the Sun and Moon were created after plants, and revolving around Earth?

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DemonScythe
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Message 70 of 153 (369217)
12-12-2006 1:51 AM
Reply to: Message 69 by xXGEARXx
12-11-2006 5:46 PM


Re: On the Accuracy of Genesis or Why I believe Genesis is True.
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You have got to be kidding me? Wow.. Big claim.. All ONE sentence. And how many other sentences does The Bible speak of relationship? A relationship between man and God. It deals with all you say and more. It is quite obvious it isn't trying to corner the market on explaining or teaching science.
Then shouldn't Science be the one explaining how the Earth formed, since there was centuries of research put in it?, instead of a book about a relationship?
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I never said it was literally elite and perfect. Far from that. I would say some parts are, others are not. The scientific evidence I agree with-for the most part. So that doesn't make me a YEC. I follow more along the lines of a progressive creationist or a thiest evolutionist. I do not know enough about the fossil record to make a complete judgement. I would like to discuss that with someone on this board that is knowledgeable about such things.
In other words, you cherry-pick what you think is right?
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Didn't mean to go off on a tangent, but I think you should know my position on this matter. The "quite possible" I was actually refering to was different authors of Genesis and the OT in general....
But do you think genesis is true?
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DemonScythe
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Message 77 of 153 (369696)
12-14-2006 7:12 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by xXGEARXx
12-12-2006 5:31 PM


Re: On the Accuracy of Genesis or Why I believe Genesis is True.
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I am not disagreeing with your statement. I am confused as to why you are asking me this?
People are using the bible instead of Science for their opinion on how Earth and the rest of the universe formed.
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No, I am just intelligent enough to know that not everything one reads can be taken word for word. I am also aware that the people of that time described real events in their lives as best they could.
So, that would mean we should base the truth on their Bronze-Age knowledge instead of Information-Age knowledge?
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I think there are some parts that explain the truth the best way a person could describe it at the time. I do not think every word is literally correct.
Like how snakes have legs?, and are evil? Like how the Sun and the Moon are created at the same time?

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