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Author Topic:   Is there any evidence for the Exodus?
Artemis Entreri 
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Message 12 of 17 (474501)
07-08-2008 9:38 PM


this has been a great read so far, thanks to all the posters putting so much into it.
I could be very mistaken in my simplistic views but i always thought the Exodus happend around 1440 bce roughly 40 years before Joshua captures the town of Ai.
I am not naive enough to think it happend just like in the bible (there is alot of mythology there), but i think you can dig through the fairytale to get good information. For instance Joshua was probably a great military mind, and with his grasp of tactics help the Israelites conquer Caana, though the text said it was all God's doing.
you seem to have a great thing going here, but why no mention of Ai?

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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 14 of 17 (474746)
07-10-2008 1:23 PM
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There's no evidence of Canaan/Palestine ever being conquered by the Israelites, certianly no evidence to support Joshua's alleged rout.
that is interesting, why would somebody want to make up the exodus story?
i guess you mean by physical evidence. Im sure many of the accepted battles between the ancient peoples of mesopotamia, have no evidence other than the written record of the event.
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Ai was uninhabited during from ca. 2400-1200 BCE, so doesn't fit any of the two main dates for the Exodus.
Im going to look into this somemore, dont take offense if i dont believe that with doing my own research. could you point me to any links or books?
Thanks Alot for responding, i really like this subject.

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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 16 of 17 (474787)
07-10-2008 11:38 PM
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07-10-2008 1:49 PM


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Perhaps there was a mini Exodus of a few dozen families or more, but certainly nothing on the scale that the Bible suggests (2-3 million).
yeah that doesn't even seem possible. I had thought it was more like a migration in the begining with other tribes gradually joining over the "40 years" of wandering.
Im not trying to argue here but i just wanted to share what i thought.
from the last thing i read i thought Ai (Ha-Ai, which was Hebrew for "the ruins"), was the older site of a city, located between Jerico, and Gibeon, and that it was a Military outpost rather than a city. though it ws located at a former city site, and therefore had the necessary resources to easily maintain the defensive outpost. and was a short battle between 4000-5000 combatants. Using the bible more as a source of the event, not a literal work of the event.
after Ai the book covers another battle called "The Waters or Merome", which took place after Ai at the waters of merome valley in Galilee. and was more of the key battle to give the Israelites some land, instead of wandering around. Joshua's army through tactics and good planning (its a military history book, not a religion book), defeated a confederacy of allied Caananites and Amorites.
i really dont have alot of sources. its just a topic i found very interesting.
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The thing is there's nothing appraoching the scale of the rout that Joshua's book claims. Now for Josh's account to be accurate we need to find evidence of complete destruction at all locations in Palestine within either a 5 or 7 year period, this depends on certain biblical interpretations. We do not have that.
yeah probably not, the bible's version seems to me to be VERY imbellished.

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