A model for oganizing intelligence that responds to the environment using varied reproduction and natural selection does exist. This model exists in the intelligence of human beings expressed in organizing and re-organizing themselves, their ideas and materials in response to the environment and with the goal of creating desirable and more complex relationships - technology as an example
The ongoing movement towards the organization and re-orgainization of molecules, cells, organisms into ever more complex and desirable (adaptable) relationships exists in evolution.
The only measurable and verifiable example of this kind of organizing activity that intentionally creates more complex, desirable (adaptable)relationships exists in human consciousness - intelligence - something that evolution itself produced.
I don't believe science has a reproducable, varifiable model of random encounters of elements or materials that would self organize themselves creating a momentum in which ever more complex relationships would continually evolve in spight of major events that would destroy many, if not most, of the relationships it created?
Science should have this kind of reproducable, varifiable model in order to select it as the accepted way to explain the evolution of life on our planet.
Gravity is something we can detect but not fully explain. We have a model for it in our solar system that's observable and varifiable even though it's not fully understood. However, it is the only model that we have and we apply it to a universe of galaxies. The gravity in our solar system is a good model.
My guess is that we will eventually discover some kind of designing or creative principle underlying the evolution of life. I don't think it will be the God of religions...or an invisible intelligence in the sky. But, I'm much more interested in discovering the truth than I am in trying to force my pet theory onto others.
I think this simply because there is a model for evolutionary responses to the environment driven by intelligent design. It's human consciousness. Since we have that model, why shouldn't the possibility of that be considered in a broader scope in further research regarding evolution. Is it because of the pressure from the Christian right! Or, is it just because we are yet unable to detect it with our current limits of observation. That's certainly a very good reason to not arrive at any conclussions but that's not a good reason not to search
Can we currently observe and verify "dark matter" in the universe? Even though we can't do that yet, it's still worth investigating.
What I'd hate to do is leave the investigation into the possibility of some kind of directional, or creative, or intelligent principle underlying evolution up to creationists and so called bible literalists.
I'm done with this on this forum. I don't think I could say anything more than what I have said. I'll read any responses but, I've got things to do that are more productive than this I think. My guess is, that if your doing science, you to too!!!
[This message has been edited by Barryven, 08-02-2003]