Sex and the Sex drive

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Originally posted by doctrbill:
"male and female created he them" on the sixth day. Gen. 1:27.
They are apparently spoken into existence simultaneously, like everything else is in the first chapter of Genesis.

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The second chapter gives a quite different scenario wherein the male is formed as a sculpture and then animated by breathing into his nostrils. The female is made sometime later, after it has become apparent that the male can find no suitable mate among the animals.
The male is formed out of soil, but the female is made via a surgical proceedure: a rib is removed from the male and used to form the body of the female.

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Were they both, male and female, spoken into existence on the sixth day?
Or was the male sculpted and then animated, and the female subsequently constructed from a rib of the man?

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Chapter two certainly makes it clear that the male was made first.
Chapter one strongly suggests that they appeared simultaneously by the miraculous power of God's spoken command.

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This is why I ask the question regarding which came first.
The Bible presents two alternatives, two theories if you will.

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Chapter one presents the sexes as having equal status: both of them sharing the mastery of all life in the universe (heaven, earth and sea); both of them living in a world that was "very good."

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Chapter two presents the male as the pre-eminent one and the female as a derivation of him: both of them workers on a plantation; both of them failing the test of loyalty; both of them losing their jobs, being placed on probation, and expelled from the plantation to the thorny desert outside its gate.

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I think that Adam and Eve were NOT the first humans created.In Genesis 1 God creates the whole world (and universe) and populates
it.Then in chapter 2 he creates Eden, puts his special Adam in it,
and calls forth all manner of useful animals to live in
eden and for Adam to have dominion over. Eve follows later.If this interpretation were viable, then there should be mention
of people other than Adam's family within genesis ... oh wait ..
Kane went to the land of Nod and knew his wife!!!PS [by edit]:: This would also put a dent in YEC aging of the
universe because there is no time span defined between creating
the human race and creating Adam in eden.

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[This message has been edited by Peter, 05-14-2002]

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Originally posted by Philip:

6TH DAY: God brought the animals to Adam, after he made them.
‘Intelligent’ Adam named them all in a mere portion of that day, several thousands of animals and birds could have been named in several hours at most. (It is not said he named any ‘creeping’ things.)

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God then created Eve, surgically from Adam, later that day.

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There are no real contradictions between Genesis 1 and 2, albeit the 2 chapters are from different perspectives, ‘spiritually’ speaking. Chapter 1 gives the 7 day reality per se. Chapter 2 explains other abstracts, man the creature’s ‘loneliness’, ‘marriage’-bonding, etc.

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It would not become ecstatically ‘good’ until the ‘wife’-mechanism was reflected, then resolved later that day, i.e., amidst the ‘naming of the animals’. (Note the exclamation of Adam as he names her ‘woman’)

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Also, the command was future tense, in chapter 1, about being fruitful and multiplying, replenishing, etc. Chapter 2 invokes the primal mechanism of the reproduction process spoken in Chapter 1.

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Also:
For the human gene-pool to be ‘inherent’ in Adam, i.e., with all its genetic variability (and so-called ‘mutation-spots’, etc.), for future cultural races (etc.),
does not seem to violate creationist nor mutationalistic logic (to my understanding).

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Gen 1:27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of
God created he him; male and female created he them.Gen 1:28:: And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be
fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it:
and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the
fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth
upon the earth.No mention of Adam here (which is what I was getting at).Gen 2:18:; And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast
of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought [them]
unto Adam to see what he would call them: and
whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that [was]
the name thereof.In chapter two God makes all the beasts of the field for Adam,
after Adam is already there.No mention of timescales.If you view chapters 1 and 2 to relate the SAME story, then they
ARE contradictory ... or at least not entirely compatible.Also in Gen Ch.2 It says that on the seventh day God admired
his work, but he hadn't made it rain, and there was no man
to till the fields.That's AFTER day six when 'male and female created he them.'