Is there anything up with the "Altenberg 16"?

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Science may not suppossed to work by cabals or group-think, but I would argue it largely does.

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Or, more accurately, you repeat this canard ad nauseum without ever producing a shred of proof of its accuracy.

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin FranklinWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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At any rate, how can one argue with the fact scientific consensus is reached quite literally when a certain set of scientists agree and convince others so that they form a majority. As such, councils or whatever can indeed be springboards to promote and idea and win majority backing.

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Uh, no.Consensus is reached when most scientists are convinced that the evidence supports the conclusion. I will grant you that the prestige behind a scientist or organization may play a part in getting an idea looked at, but if the evidence doesn't support the conclusion, no council, cabal, group or whatever will make any difference.It's all about the evidence.

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin FranklinWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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I don't think we need to rehash famous examples explored ad nauseum where false ideas and faked data were widely accepted without any real evidence or corroborating data to support such claims.

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Please show me where you've provided any examples of this.

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin FranklinWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat