Racism not about attaching names (unless they are derogatory names). It is about believing that some humans are less valuable than others because of race or nationality.
Yes to an extent. But the point is what is a race? There are no exact points as to what a race is. Is white a race? So called whites are sometimes sub classified as Nordic, Alpine & Mediterranean which, although not derogatory, stills puts a label on a particular group. It is not the label, but what the impression the label imparts.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
Everyone's racist once in a while...it's Hollywood, man!
If I was a racists, would I date a black woman? Would I marry a Puerto Rican woman?
Yes. Who knows what thrills someone could get from dating and I assume having sex with a minority. But I don't think you are a racist, my point is that you could be even though you date outside your race.
There is a comedian out there, that all he does is make racists comments, but he's not a racist. I will admit that probably both he and I should not make those comments, for two reasons. One, people don't understand because of their ignorance (you) and two, it is a bad influence on people that don't understand and are gullible.
People are full of shit riVeRraT, and they like to take the "I'm better than you" approach whenever someone says something that they were thinking...or have said themselves.
Anyone claiming to not have made a racist comment, or made fun of a racial stereotype, is completely full of shit. I've made them, openly, even to black friends. If they're too sensitive not to see it as a joke, then fuck 'em. Lucky for me they aren't that sensitive. Also, I am a racist, I openly admit that - so do my black friends, and asian friends, and middle eastern friends - and I honestly can't see how anyone isn't. If all it takes to be a racist is the words that come out of your mouth, then EVERYONE is a racist at some point in their life - or sexist, or homophobic, or intolarant.
I have friends from different cultures, countries, races, sexual orientation - but that doesn't mean I won't find myself making a racist comment when frustrated or as a joke. Anyone claiming different is full of shit.
Now, I'm not a white supremacist, hell, I'm not even "white," and I don't go around saying minorities need to leave the US... but let some asian cut me off in traffic, or a black dude in a pimped out ride take my parking space. You better believe (inside my car to myself) I'll be using racial slurs. The funniest thing is when I'm in the car with my black friends and THEY use it when something like that happens too. We're only human, dude.
Personally, I think the PC cops are gaying us up and trying to turn us all into nigger lovers...
They don't, they call themselves nigg(as)...totally different.
I know it used to be a derogatory term, but if they call themselves that, why can't I?
Quick answer, because white people are scared of black people and how they'll react - not that you are, but that's the reason it is now taboo to say it openly. It's masked under the PC reasons for not saying it, but it boils down to white people being scared of black people.
Midget, chink, spic, cunt, and any other word is used normally, except for nigger, because no one is scared of the reaction they'll get from midgets.
Sarah Silverman has a great bit about a joke she did that used the word "nigger" in it. One day she was going to do the joke and there was an entire group of black people in the front row, so, out of fear, she didn't do the joke. And, ended up re-writing the entire joke with the word "chink" instead of nigger. She also explains the fact that she used to do the joke with the word nigger but ended up changing it. So now she does the chink joke, explains that it used to be a nigger joke, and that is now the entire bit - (I hope you were able to follow that - either way the last video I posted is her explaining what I just wrote)
One day she had to do a TV spot and she was going to do the entire bit - (chink joke and explaining that it used to be a nigger joke) - when the TV producer came up to her and asked her if she could change the word nigger to "N" word. She then asked, "What do I say instead of chink?" and the producer replied, "Just say chink."
This is the joke. She used to say "nigger" but change it to chink and it was approved by TV execs:
But as you can see from the video, many were hesitant to laugh, including Penn and Teller.
Here's the video of her explaining when and why she changed the joke:
Ok, I'm confusing her with someone else. There's another female comedian who is equally hot that looks sort of like her. Can't remember who she is, though. Saw her at one of those gay conferences.
There is a difference between identifying fallacies and randomly naming them, and I would commend this difference to your study.
Clear ad hominem attack, instead of addressing the discussion you choose to attack my character as well as being a clear example of argument from ignorance.
None of which you are apparently willing to mention.
Non sequitur, your argument does not flow. Ad hominem (Poisoning the Well), indirect ad hominem attack attacking my character rather then my argument.
For the record, you still havent addressed my questions.. Once again;
Do you wish me to explain my opinionated statement? I can..
Do you believe my opinion needs to be argued objectivly? If so, why? If not, why bother pointing it out?
And has nothing to do with what bluescat actually said.
Non sequitor and irrelevant conclusion,I directly addresed the counter to my statement and have not been shown how the logic doesnt flow, your conclusion wasnt based on any complementary statements to back it up or even make an argument.
And would also be another complete non sequitur.
How? Explain how a colloquil slogan emphasizing celebrating diverisity of all people over ignoring differances is a non sequital statement in a discussion over ignoring diversity in favor of "agree that all humans are the same"?
Irrelevant conclusion
I'm guessing that since you are so angry and irrational and incoherent on the subject of race, you're a racist. 'Cos no-one but a racist needs to be so irrational and incoherent about this subject.
1) I'm not angry. Remember what they say about assumptions... Any evedence to support your claim? 2) I fail to see how I am being irrational, do you have evidence to support your claim, or is it just conjecture? 3) Incoherent? Once again, I must ask if you have evedence to support your claim, or is it just conjecture? You seem able to understand my post just fine.. At least enough to complain about its context.
Now, the "coup de grace" based on (as of yet unsubstantiated) conjecture, and (also as of yet unsubstantiated)direct attacks on my character, you make a bad argument and conclude I must be a racist..
Irrelevant conclusion Ad hominem (direct) x3 Ad hominem (Poisoning the Well) X2 Non sequitur Strawman red herring
Really, these fallacies are pretty obvious, if you cant spend a moment to look, thats your issue.
Its appearant you're not interested in honest discussion, you seem more interested in just arguing for the sake of being insulting and petty. Good luck with that. Get back to me when you're done being small.
But in no way do any of the above traits mean that they are any different. The same way that a Great Dane and a Poodle are different but still the same Canis domestica.
Yes.. Yes it does. I am differant from you. You are differant from me. We are differant from any other random joe on the street regardless of how we share the quality of being of the same species.
You fail on the falacy of division.
If you reply, I wont respond until monday (maybe) But I will respond.
A quick google shows the following definitions for racism:
--the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races --discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race --Racism is the belief that race is a primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. ... --The belief that each race has distinct and intrinsic attributes; The belief that one race is superior to all others; Prejudice or discrimination based upon race --racist - based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks" --racist - a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others --racist - discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion
Sorry, that last one, discrimination on the basis of religion is false. As far as I know there is no 100% correlation between any race and any specific religion.
I saw in a previous post in this thread that sexism is now considered racism. That's nonsense too!
The broader the use of the term "racism" gets the less meaningful it is. If it applies to everything it applies to nothing.
My guess is that calling someone "a racist" is such a good political weapon that it's being overused.
Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
My guess is that calling someone "a racist" is such a good political weapon that it's being overused.
Sure it is being overused. The fact is there is no accepted number of races. What constitutes a race? That is why I have been pointing out the fact that there is either one race or 6.6 billion. That is why I have said that the differences are minor.
Abe} What "race"are my daughters?
Their mother is a mix of Korean & Japanese I Am a mixture of Alpine White & Native American
Or try this guy whose mother was half White, Half Native American and his father half Black, one-quarter Hispanic White & one-quarter Native American. What is his race?
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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
Or try this guy whose mother was half White, Half Native American and his father half Black, one-quarter Hispanic White & one-quarter Native American. What is his race?
Like me with different linages, he sounds like the prototypical, red-blooded, mom and apple pie American mongrel. We could call him a "nigger" for short, but that moniker is already taken.
How about a "rennie"? He's a damn no good amerkan rennie, that's what he is. Then we could form the National Association of Societies for Care of American Rennies. NASCAR for short.
Like me with different linages, he sounds like the prototypical, red-blooded, mom and apple pie American mongrel.
I would be interested in knowing what percent of the US population are mongrels? Maybe we could apply for minority status and get the same treatment as the other pseudominorities.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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