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Author Topic:   Don't get it (Re: Ape to Man - where did the hair go?)
jar
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Message 45 of 116 (103104)
04-27-2004 2:41 PM


Humans lost their hair as punishment for Original Sin.
God said "I'll show you. Henceforth you will go about hairless and I shall create Haute Couture to plague and impoverish you through all time".
Makes sense to me.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 51 of 116 (103112)
04-27-2004 2:58 PM
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04-27-2004 2:48 PM


I could manage the sarcasm but the searches were beyond me.
Man is not hairless. Honest. I just looked. It's there on arms, legs, chest, head (although thinning) and, since I have not shaved today, face. I cannot see my back but a cursory tactile examination tends to show there is hair there as well.
I do not have to take this as a matter of faith. I examined the subject and honest, the hair is there.

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jar
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Message 54 of 116 (103116)
04-27-2004 3:11 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by pbaylis
04-27-2004 3:02 PM


pbaylis
I would be glad to reply if I had a clue what you have been talking about.
try one question or statement and let's go from there.
But the thread is on "where did the hair go" and for the life of me, I can't find that it has gone.
edited to insert required spelling errors.
[This message has been edited by jar, 04-27-2004]

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Message 71 of 116 (103216)
04-27-2004 10:30 PM
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04-27-2004 9:49 PM


Re: Whatever
When you see Masai Mara people on Discover Channel trekking across the open lion-infested Savannah accompanying their herds of cattle, does it look to you like they are well-adapted?
They are superbly adapted. That is why they have been able to continue to exist as long as they have and not simply become the feast for the beast.
One of the Evolutions of Modern Humans is that they are the supreme generalists. They, more than any other creature, both adapt to their environment and change that environment to suit themselves. And it was also one of the more successfull ones since if you look over this earth, there are very few nitch environments where Humans have not fit in.

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Message 75 of 116 (103227)
04-27-2004 11:11 PM
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04-27-2004 10:40 PM


Re: Whatever
Existing is not adapting, intellegence, the stick, the hair are all the product of adapting, of evolving.
Early man, even proto man, was certainly capable of running down game. They ate, survived, produced offspring. So they did those things. If they had not been able to do so, they would have died out.
Over time, humans evolved. They changed. Their hair changed. Why, nobody knows.
But that is one of the strongest arguments FOR evolution. Not all changes are improvements. Some may be, many others turn out to be handicaps but the vast majority of changes are neutral.

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jar
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Message 99 of 116 (103507)
04-28-2004 6:57 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by WiseMan
03-30-2004 7:52 PM


If we supposedly evolved from the ape, where did all of the ape-like hair go.
Well, the hair is still there, modified slightly but still very much there.
What made us walk upright?
Moving around on the ground and grazing in the lower tree branches would be possibilities. In addition, the higher we could hold our heads, the better chance we could have to see dangers.
It seems to me that there had to be something that lasted a very long period of time in order to cause us to evolve.
Very good. I think you have made a break through. It did take a long, long time. And not all of the attempts worked. If you look back, you will find a long lineage that led, step by step from a very apelike creature whose spine entered at the rear of the skull to ones where the spine entered verticaly at the base of the skull.

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