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jar
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Message 29 of 55 (104129)
04-30-2004 10:23 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by FliesOnly
04-30-2004 9:32 AM


NO!
You can not base it on degrees or level of education. That would be simply attributing it to Authority.
It is necessary to decide the merits based on the evidence and facts available and not on the Authority of some individual or GOD.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 30 of 55 (104130)
04-30-2004 10:26 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by Syamsu
04-30-2004 6:17 AM


Re: Ted Holden and Neander DNA
It is perhaps a little vague, but since it is explicitely denied in the newspaper as well as by redwolf that neanderthals are the ancestors of modern humans, it can't reasonably be misunderstood.
Correct. Neaderthal is not the ancestor of modern Humans. It is one of the HOMO species and there was a common ancestor of both Neaderthal and Homo Sapiens (and Chimps).

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jar
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Message 32 of 55 (104269)
04-30-2004 3:52 PM
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04-30-2004 1:34 PM


Who knows better the available facts and evidence (and/or where to find them) than a scientist (which these guys all claim to be)?
Obviously you do. And that is how it should be.
So there is no problem. Someone comes up with a statement that is obviously wrong then you challenge it and say, "Whoa Chrley, not so fast."

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Message 34 of 55 (104372)
04-30-2004 7:03 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Trixie
04-30-2004 6:54 PM


Re: Dishonest behaviour?
I wonder if you might have an example in mind?
But there is no cure for such behavior. Trolls troll. And I have seen time after time in forums and long before in good old usenet, the person who goes out his or her way to get slapped down and then uses that as justification for their behavior.
I would not call the initial behavior dishonest, simply childish. The secondary use, claiming that they had been persecuted though is most definitely dishonest.
From one Atheist to another though, I don't think there is much that can be done about trolls except shine the light of day on them.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 43 of 55 (104586)
05-01-2004 4:15 PM


I think that there is yet another form of dishonesty, one that is certainly evident here, and that is the poster that simply keeps repeating things even after they have been shown, time after time, to be incorrect.
I am not talking about issues of believe, there people can honestly disagree. Those that believe in GOD, those that do not, those that believe in many GODs or even those that simply question can certainly honestly hold and defend their positions and in the issue of GOD, each is certainly right.
What I'm talking about are those that pick some platform, and make some statement that CAN be either proven or disproven. But when faced with clear evidence that they statement is false, usually politely (although not always) say "Thank you, and as I was saying...", and just repeat the same rubbish all over again.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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