Examples of Dishonesty

Both sides in the debate have accused the other of dishonesty.This topic will allow each side to present examples of what they see as dishonesty.From Merium Webster Online

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One entry found for dishonest.

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Main Entry: dishonest
Pronunciation: (")di-'s-n&st also -'z-
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French deshoneste, from des- dis- + honeste honest
1 obsolete : SHAMEFUL, UNCHASTE
2 : characterized by lack of truth, honesty, or trustworthiness : UNFAIR, DECEPTIVE
- dishonestly adverb
synonyms DISHONEST, DECEITFUL, MENDACIOUS, UNTRUTHFUL mean unworthy of trust or belief. DISHONEST implies a willful perversion of truth in order to deceive, cheat, or defraud . DECEITFUL usually implies an intent to mislead and commonly suggests a false appearance or double-dealing . MENDACIOUS may suggest bland or even harmlessly mischievous deceit and when used of people often suggests a habit of telling untruths . UNTRUTHFUL stresses a discrepancy between what is said and fact or reality .

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I suggest that dishonest is not the same as a mistake. Nor is it ignorance. For this reason I don't think many of those posting creationist "facts" here are dishonest. It is those that have published them and have had a chance to correct them that are dishonest.

A fraudulant Dating "test"What occured here acording to the above site is that Ausin choose samples in a many which is understood to produce a date that is not that of a lava flow and then claimed it dated the lava flow. Since the date obtained was "too old" he claimed this invalidated the method.Since what is needed to use the method properly was already well understood there is not excuse for this. I submit this as an example of the kind of dishonesty that creation "scientists" get up to. (or is that down to? )Zac, you wanted to play. Still want to?

Perhaps to keep this thread a little under control (and leave room for any creationists who think they have something) we could spin such details off to another thread?If you want I'll do the setting up.

We are starting into a slow drift off the originally intended topic.How about we leave those who post here out of this and refer to web published information that we can show are examples of dishonesty?I think it was Zac, who wanted to "play" and I made this topic for that. Unfortunately, it seems to be taking him a rather long time to find examples of what he claimed existed.