Wyatt's Museum and the shape of Noah's Ark

Raz, That the reason large barges have moon pools is so waves stresses are relieved into the moon pool. I though you agreed that the RAM pump had an enclosed containment vessel in the ark to which it pumped, with the RAM pumping water into this containment vessel it would pressurize the air in this enclosed sealed reservoir vessel, as long as Noah built a simple check valve to contain the the Waters pumped into this containment vessel (same principle to a well pump pressurizing a water reservoir so water flows in modern time to the faucett based off pressure)(Noah could of had wave powered RAM pumps to pressurize water reservoirs), all Noah would have to do is make a pipe out of brass, given they had brass and iron technologies, and create a valve, the RAM pump is separate from the containment vessel, when Noah turned on the faucett, he would have pressurized water, to operate the bilge pump based off suction lift(that previous link on using water to pump bilge wastes), as long as the water bilge pump pumped the water out the roof of the ark, I really like your RAM pump idea, cause with it you can pump bilge wastes out the roof and maintain sanitation, etc...

Raz, I'm kinda wingin it, thought we agreed the waves was the RAM, with a wider opening to a narrowed opening to a check valve to the pressure receivor, because like you said air compresses more than water, then its the air in the empty reciever that compresses providing head pressure, as the waves pressurize the storage tanks air, with waters each time the waves hammer's the check valve until the air pressure overides the the RAM, and the check valve won't start pulsating from the wave until you open a valve downstream, as the air pressure decreases the RAM will start adding water through this simple check valve assembly, etc...Because the air rises, its on the top of the reciever it becomes compressed, the water line leaving the reciever is off the bottom, so when one open's a valve downstream and the water pressure is what delievers the water, to the faucet outlet, etc... When the pressure in the reciever drops, the RAM will start opening up the check valve re-pressurizing the reciever, etc...P.S. If you live in the country, you likely have a well pump, and a storage tank, same principle, instead of an electric pump you have a wave powered RAM, that re-pressurizes the system, so the water leaves the pressurized vessel when you open a valve downstream, depending on the size of the pressurized vessel determines the amounts of water you can waste out the roof of the ark via the bilge wastes (urine, leakages, that could be collected and siphoned up an out of the ark), etc...

Jon, Think it actually was a creationist site that suggested on extremely long boats, that it stablized the ark, as it crosses over the wave, I kinda hear you though, but don't feel the ark was built for speed, so extra drag might actually be a good thing, for the ark wasn't built for speed, the moon pool likely was more for the ventilation, granted some feel it was used to dispose of bilge wastes, that is if the ark had a moon pool, etc...I just can not find much on hull pools, moon pools, so kind of undecided if it strengthens long barge ore like boats from breaking in two, or not, likely it just helped the ark as it crossed over the waves,etc...

I thought some airplane wings use wood laminates to strengthen the wing thats under tremendous stress, and we should all know by now the legend the ancient chinese used wood laminates to build boats larger than the ark, by compartmentalizing so stresses diverted away from the stressed area, etc...The bible says that Noah built the ark, that is if you take the bible literally, had 120 years to build it, etc...P.S. If the chinese were able to build sail boats 400 to 500 feet long, out of wood, no reason Noah couldn't of built a simple barge off the same scientific principles given Noah had iron and brass technologies available, kinda like a bicycle tire using the same principle of comparmentalizing stresses outward by using spokes to divert stresses to be shared by the hub, away from the point of contact.NOVA Online | Sultan's Lost Treasure | Ancient Chinese Explorers

Raz, The RAM pump is only pressuring the container, it the compressed air in the container thats pushing, not pumping the water to where ever its needed, no water wasted, etc...P.S. Unless your can prove the hebrew root word for "ONLY" in kjv genesis 7:23 is an all inclusive word, its root word can also mean: "never the less" or "non the less". You can not say the Word agrees with you that "only" the creatures on Noah's ark survived. It was summertime in the southern hemisphere at the time of the flood, no hoofed creatures in Australia, because they all drowned, the lack of any native hoofed creatures in Australia, is another of the many testimonies supporting the biblical deluge, etc...[This message has been edited by whatever, 04-28-2004]

If you take the bible literally, Noah had iron and brass technologies available, so he could of reinforced stress joints, etc...

Raz, Its the same idea that the waves would pulsated up and down in the moon pool to ventilate the air, however with the RAM being the wave, you have this steel ball check valve in the way, with a wider opening up to this narrowed steel check valve, the wave would pulse up,the wider opening and hyraulically lifting this round check valve (steel ball) adding water on each pulse until the pressure containment vessel was pressurized with water, the waves would be a quite powerful RAM, able to build sufficent psi, to handle a simple suction pump, no water wasted, its not a perpetural motion because its power comes from the waves, your just harnessing the wave energies, and taking advantage of the compressibility (springness of this compressed air in the top of the water storage container, to deliver water under pressure), etc...P.S. Since Noah had iron and brass available, the check valve could of been made of either or a combination, etc... I fully realize this technology was lost for a short time after the biblical deluge, etc...

Rocket, I agree the ark's strength wasn't due to excessive use of wood, it wasn't designed to be schooner, not that some good sided timbers wouldn't of been used, but all angles compartmentalized, kinda how they shore up the earth in mines deep within the earth, etc...P.S. A wood airplane wing isn't strong due to excessive use of wood, but because of sound stress design, under the resin, etc...

Rocket, Your out of my league then, but whatever, wouldn't the bicycle metal spokes(wood spokes)to its hub (center beam), in principle go both ways, to supporting the rims(ribs),and the tires(the pitched covered outer shell), meaning less wood is at times better than more, I was trying put timbers in the same context as arches, so all stresses are shared around the hub, to all outside edges, etc...[This message has been edited by whatever, 04-29-2004]

Rocket, They probably could of built the empire state building out of gopher wood, whatever that was, but would of needed metal like the ark, though it would of likely burned like the twin towers, etc...The twin towers were built of cement and steel, yet it collapsed, though I blame not you (engineers) but the environmentalists, for its collapsing as quickly as it did, etc...P.S. I heard it was the envionmentalists that were responsible for the twin towers collapse because they barred the head engineer from spraying asphestos on the steel girders, thought if memory serves me, correct, that he said if not sprayed it would be suseptible to collapse in a fire, interestingly the environmentalists won, and the towers collapsed. It was sure an interesting article on Murphys law, not sure if it was true, it was floating around the internet at the time of 911, though bet Donald Trumps new tower being built in Chicago, that its steel girders will be protected against fire, he wouldn't let those darn environmentalists to put his tower at risk, and the people's safety therein, etc...[This message has been edited by whatever, 04-28-2004]

Jar, You know I just love those conspiracy theories, etc... Like what have the environmentalists done, adding MTBE to the gas so to pollute all the freshwater, causing the price of gas to rise, cutting supply (not enough refineries built to keep up to demand) to raise the price of gas off supply and demand, etc...P.S. Maybe we should send all the environmentalists to Mexico city so they can see how they are saving the planet, etc...It doesn't matter, God told Noah that there would be seed time and harvest, night and cold, day and night, while the earth remaineth, etc... It's his Word (kjv genesis 8:22), etc...[This message has been edited by whatever, 04-28-2004]

If one takes the bible literally, Noah had Iron and brass, the main beam going across the bottom only need to be reinforced with iron, it wasn't built like a sail boat, if its water line was 35 feet of water, Noah was instructe to build rooms within the ark, so this would of internally strenthened the hull, even so there wouldn't of been great stresses on the hull, because there wouldn't off been hull pounding, just waters flowing laminally around the hull, the only way the bottom of a reinforced hull would be pounded by the waves is if it rode high in the water and the waves started pounding the bottom of the hull as it crashed through the waves, the whole basis was simply a slow floating barge self aligning to continually cut into the wave, so any flow would flow around the hull, so hull pounding either from the side or the bottom wouldn't of been a problem.P.S. The bible says that God told Noah to build an ark shaped boat with rooms within, makes me want to take one of them sea cruises on boats designed quite similarly to Noah's ark, etc...

Raz, Thought you already answered the elephant wastes, you said the ark wasn't a submarine, so they shoveled the heavy wastes out the side, kinda like farmers do today, the bilge wastes could of been siphoned out so the ark, the moonpool could of provided forced air ventilation, though its more likely, due to them windows across the top of the ark with a roof above the windows, so heat rises and cooler air settles, natural ventilation, etc...

Raz, Those anchor stones found by Ron Wyatt are quite interesting, though they were quite large, they were not heavy enough to create ballast, they just added stability, and acted as the rudder so to speak, etc...P.S. Your square wave tusami must of wiped out all boats built near the sea, Noah's boat built on dry land, it was too big to move, thats why the people were mocking Noah building a boat that needed water to float, it was to far away from any waters, (it must of been quite a site)(Noah working his tail off pitching the boat(kinda a nasty job), (the best drama show in the land), etc...), Imagine Noah said things like God will provide the water, its quite a story, kinda paralleling today, though this time it says the earth will be destroyed by fire(2 Peter 3:10-13), a new heaven (the elements in the atmosphere will be burned with fervent heat, and earth too), the seas will be no more, in the New Jerusalem that will come down out of the heavens after Judgement day, like the Lord Jesus said, in my Fathers house are many mansions, I go to prepare a place for you, so where I am you shall be also, its like the OUR FATHER, where it says thy Kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven, the New Jerusalem 1,500 miles by 1,500 miles coming down out of heaven and setting on the new earth, as the flood cleansed the earth, it will be cleansed with fire, before judgement day, after Judgment day, then given God controls gravity, this massive city will set down on the earth, and the earth will abide forever, The city will have no need of the sun,or the moon to shine in it: for glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof kjv genesis 21:23, etc...though you must of seen the paleontologists testimony evidence for your square wave tusuami (I repost the link for you all), like you said these waves are are much worse than the perfect storm, etc...Atlantisquest.comThe evidence of the violence of nature combined with the stench of rotting carcasses was staggering. The ice fields containing these remains stretched for hundred of miles in every direction (Hibben, 1946). Trees and animals, layers of peat and mosses, twisted and mangled together like some giant mixer had jumbled them some 10,000 years ago, and then froze them into a solid mass. The evidence immediately suggests an enormous tidal wave which raged over the land, tumbling animals and vegetation within its mass, which was then quick-frozen (Sanderson, 1960). But the extinction is not limited to the Arctic.[This message has been edited by whatever, 04-30-2004]

Bonobojones, There is a video that you can watch to see why these stones are considered evidences that the Ark is likely the site Ron Wyatt wanted to excavate, etc...What other purpose for these large stones to be strewn over 12 miles area, in the very location the bible says the ark came to rest, etc...Noah's Ark Overview, Part IIP.S. The bible says the ark had a roof, after the tusami destroyed life on the lowland along the sea, the water then started to rise on the surface of the earth causing the ark to start to rise, so no reason the waves or hurricane winds to be problematic, to shoveling the wastes out the side of the ark, etc...Reposted the link for you, where paleontologists suggests an enormous tidal wave raged over the land, etc...Atlantisquest.comThe evidence immediately suggests an enormous tidal wave which raged over the land, tumbling animals and vegetation within its mass, which was then quick-frozen (Sanderson, 1960). But the extinction is not limited to the Arctic.[This message has been edited by whatever, 04-30-2004]