[QUOTE]Originally posted by schrafinator:
[B] You still have to explain the GC and the fossils that
are known, and these do not indicate a worldwide flood event that happened a few thousand years ago.
You also completely avoided my question. Why have we not found a SINGLE flowering plant fossil in the lower layers of the GC??
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--Respectfully, concerning Shraf’s belaborings and Degreed’s response, both.
--Flowering plants not existing beneath certain plate layers and the GC ... Perhaps MANY plate layers are pre-flood in most parts of the world (with and without fossil graveyards--that were due to catastrophes). Please enlighten me (us) on the significance of your questioning. Does it really ‘prove’ no recent global flood or no flood induced GC?
--Does your flowering plant inference also rule-out oil being formed ‘post-flood’? (Again, forgive my lack of knowledge geology, I’m still studying much conflicting data)
--Many evolutionists conclude catastrophic nearly global flood(s) have occurred without compromising their position.
--The genesis flood, regardless of any scientific mechanism, for many YECs (like myself), did take place, indeed. The real mechanism was undoubtedly supernatural (similar to Sodom & Gommorha, the creation of Eden, the dispensations of the Bible, Christ’s death & resurrection, etc.). I’ve read YEC literature which gives scientific mechanisms (comets, tides, canopy breakdown, plate tectonics, and hosts of other explanations for the 40 days/nights of global deluge. Yet, I, too, believe it was supernaturally induced, not very explicable by scientific mechanisms. The number 40 is a ‘supernatural’ clue here. As a YEC I defy any biblical creationist who states this was not a ‘supernatural event, dispensation, and covenant (by God). Mechanisms are arbitrary here, if supernatural. Scientifically proving the ‘rain’ alone didit is nearly impossible. But that the deity didit must be inferred.
--Degreed (and others), might you not scientifically consider?:
Are there not variations of YECs and ToEs/ToMs (theory of mutation), besides the so-called ‘nave’ ones ? Consider:
Humphrey’s theorizes ‘general relativistic’ time dilation at the ‘event horizon’ within universal gravitation. I myself follow a special-relativistic time dilation model (E=mc(^2)), or ‘increased gamma’, at the instant following the ‘big bang’. The latter model seems to account for extreme solar time dilation in numerous (radiometric) clocks.
--Do not radiometric clocks perpetrate fraud to the unsuspecting public regarding the solar time intervals of the GC?