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Author Topic:   Questions Creationists Never Answer-still waiting!
LudvanB
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Message 36 of 116 (3155)
01-30-2002 10:45 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by TrueCreation
01-30-2002 10:28 PM


125 years ago,there was no mechanism known to man that could allow them to explore the depth of the ocean of walk on the moon and yet,Jules Verne had allready dreamed of these concepts. Just because we cant explain abiogenesis TODAY does not mean we wont be tomorrow...As for your "accurate" book,thats a matter of opinion and i'm afraid that despite pretense to the contrary,yours is very much clouded on the subject.

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LudvanB
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Message 39 of 116 (3168)
01-30-2002 11:13 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by TrueCreation
01-30-2002 10:54 PM


It has been falsified repeatadly but you just refuse to see it and try to twist the words into another meaning. I have allready explained to you how it is easily falsified in another thread...you have yet to reply.

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LudvanB
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Message 41 of 116 (3174)
01-30-2002 11:29 PM
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01-30-2002 11:23 PM


Gladly....lust comming from the heart? well guess what? It neithers comes from the heart NOR from the soul. Lustfull thoughts and feelings are a direct result of hormonal secretion in the brain in reaction to either an outside stimuli (beautifull naked woman) or an inside stimuli (memory of a beautifull naked woman). It is a natural built in mechanism of the human body whose purpose is the facilitation of procreation.

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LudvanB
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Message 43 of 116 (3180)
01-31-2002 12:09 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by TrueCreation
01-30-2002 11:46 PM


Precisely...and thats documented evidence...you dont need to look for a soul to understand feelings...its all a chemical reaction in the brain. Same as memories. And thats not my opinion...thats documented science.

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LudvanB
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Message 60 of 116 (3215)
01-31-2002 3:24 PM
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01-31-2002 11:14 AM


LOL....wow,you just dont admit it when you are wrong do you? when they say the heart,they actually mean the brain? Boy,you really have a knack for the twist my friend. You are of course very much wrong about this because the soul according to your Bible IS a spiritual thing,not a corporeal or chemical one. And i was watching a show about the history of biology last months...did you know that until about 400 years ago,everyone was convinced that the brain was actually a secondary organ designed to purify the blood. Initially,they had come to that conclusion because of the spongious appearance of the brain and because of peculiar situations where decapitated bodies,like those of chicken for instance,kept moving for a while after decapitation. They did not believe that the loss of the brain caused the death. They were all convinced that death in decapitations was strictly due to the massive emoraging that innevitably followed. So in the days of Jesus and before,no one associated any cognitive functions to the brain. They all believe that the heart was the sole center of life inside any living organism. This is mainly the reason why most of them believed that neither plants nor insects were living organism per say because they had no identifiable heart. So as you can clearly see,the people who wrote the Bible thoughts that the physical heart was the seat of the soul and the blood vehiculed the emotions in the body. The Bible is a treatese of primitive superstitions and is no more inspired by God then a children's book containing stories of Santa Clauss and the Easter Bunny.

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LudvanB
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Message 70 of 116 (3261)
02-01-2002 11:59 AM
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02-01-2002 11:39 AM


IMHO,there is no such thing as "the supernatural"...everything is science...its just not always science we know as of yet...but eventually we will. supernatural is the name the ignorant give to their ignorance.

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LudvanB
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Message 75 of 116 (3272)
02-01-2002 4:32 PM
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02-01-2002 4:18 PM


quote:
Originally posted by TrueCreation:
"IMHO,there is no such thing as "the supernatural"...everything is science...its just not always science we know as of yet...but eventually we will. supernatural is the name the ignorant give to their ignorance."
--Your definition is flawed because science is the dealing with the workings of the universe, that is, the physical realm of dimentions of time and space as in contrast with the working processes of matter making up the governing rules of the universe. The supernatural is in no way a 'name the ignorant give to their ignorance', it is the belief that there is comething out of anything we can postulate on, our universe, our space-time dementions.

I agree with you that there quite a few things we dont understand AS OF YET...but those things are not "THE Supernatural"...they are merely NATURAL laws we are not aware of at the moment but give it time and i promise you that everything you attribute to the supernatural today will find an explanation in science eventually science eventually...effectively,there is no limit to science's ability to explain away the universe and everything it contains...its all a matter of time.

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LudvanB
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Message 85 of 116 (3346)
02-03-2002 2:41 AM
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02-01-2002 5:12 PM


Well you are assuming that something exists outside this universe...an assumption not substanciated by any facts mind you...and certainly not scientific ones. You may convince yourself that those things you cannot understand or explain today have an "out of this universe" origin but i rather think that they are merely things of this universe that we dont yet understand. I dont believe in God because i need God to explain anything to me...science will do this all in good time...i believe in God because i do. period.

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