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Author Topic:   PROBLEM: Evolution is only a theory
custard
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Message 21 of 32 (111351)
05-29-2004 3:59 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by crashfrog
05-29-2004 3:25 AM


CF explains:
2) Certain individuals had a mutation that allowed them to resist the virus.
We know it can't be 1, because the bacteria are clones
Wow, I read the original experiment, but it never really sunk in and now I'm full of questions. I'm completely out of my element here, so these are honest questions.
So organisms that are reproduced from a parent without fertilization, like bacteria, are considered clones but they are still capable of mutating? (I'm having difficulty phrasing this - sorry)
My understanding of a clone has always been that it was an exact replica of the original. Is this just some movie biology that I've accepted as real; and are the offspring of all organisms that clone themselves capable of mutating from the parent?
How does this differ from creatures such as worms or starfish, which if cut in half, can actually grow into two seperate organisms?
Also Aspen groves, which I believe are clones of the parent organism, is it possible that some of the individual trees in the grove have mutated from the parent?
This is heady stuff. I appreciate any answers, or links, you may be able to provide.

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custard
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Message 23 of 32 (111355)
05-29-2004 4:39 AM
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05-29-2004 4:06 AM


I think that when biologists call something a clone, they're referring to reproduction that doesn't allow for the genetic shuffling of obligate sexuality,
So the sheep Dolly, for example, would she be an exact replica of her parent organism? Or could she have mutations that distinguish her from the parent?
This is interesting stuff. I'm going to have to do more research; and thanks for the answers so far.

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custard
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Message 25 of 32 (111361)
05-29-2004 5:07 AM
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05-29-2004 4:59 AM


Thanks, that's awesome
So how the hell do people have such a hard time not believing in evolution? Amazing.
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