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Author Topic:   What and Where are the Terms of the New Covenant?
jar
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Message 8 of 94 (112035)
06-01-2004 11:06 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by purpledawn
06-01-2004 9:27 AM


Re: Example 2: Moses
PD
JMHO & YMMV
For me the basic Covenant in the New Testament revolves around Jesus reduction of the vast host of Laws in the OT to two, and in the fact that the Covenant is in reality, Bilateral.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
There is no contract as seen in the OT.
The OT contract is between GOD and a people. It seperates that People from all others. The Covenant in the NT however is between God and the individual, a personal relationship. It is not with a people, it is not with a place, it is not even with a religion or sect.
As I read John 3:16, it says quite clearly that if you believe in GOD (some Christians try to make the word HIM in the verse point only to Jesus, but that falls apart unless Jesus is a seperate entity than GOD), then you will have everlasting life.
So, you will not find the mass meeting, the voting, the sign on the dotted line Covenant in the NT. It is simply not required. The NT Covenant is between YOU, the very individual YOU, and GOD. If you believe in GOD, then you fulfill your side of the contract.
The LAWs mentioned in the NT boil down to two. The first is what is needed for you to fulfill your half of the Covenant, "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God". The second is how you should lead your life and exist in the kinship of man, "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself".

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jar
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Message 10 of 94 (112107)
06-01-2004 3:38 PM
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06-01-2004 3:32 PM


Re: New Testament
So could the "New Covenant" really be a summary of the old and not a replacement? More of a renewal and not really different.
IMHO it is more a simplification. If you look at the examples you mention, each fits nicely into the two great commandments. It is saying, listen, if you just stick to these two basics you will do just fine with GOD, with yourself and with your fellow man.
And Your Mileage May Vary.

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Message 14 of 94 (112200)
06-01-2004 7:41 PM
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06-01-2004 7:39 PM


Re: New Testament
RTFM IIRC TTBOMK it is all covered there.

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Message 71 of 94 (116744)
06-19-2004 9:32 PM
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06-19-2004 9:18 PM


I guess that is why there are a few of us
that see it as a personal covenant just between GOD and the individual.
God said, "Love me" and "Love others as you love yourselves".

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