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One_Charred_Wing
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Message 6 of 27 (121766)
07-04-2004 2:34 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by PecosGeorge
07-04-2004 12:30 AM


Re: bump for Hangdawg13
I'll be brief but please contemplate what I say because it's something to think about:
How honest would a governing system be with what they program into us at birth?
Answer: Read Brave New World by Auldous Huxley.
You can't trust a government body with that; they will only use it to create human cattle.

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One_Charred_Wing
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Message 14 of 27 (121874)
07-04-2004 4:19 PM
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07-04-2004 12:07 PM


Always question
We are talking about a code of behavior toward our fellowman that transcends - without giving up the requirements of good citizenship. Not robots, but people of good will, good intentions actually carried out.
That would be wonderful, but I don't think that'll happen until Heaven and Earth pass away and you know the rest.
are you not being programmed?
I've always had the 'problem' of questioning what I was talked, so I'd say not really. Looking back, some things my parents have told me are absolute balogna and frankly, wrong. Same thing with our government. Just because I respect and love someone/something doesn't mean they can't be wrong. Because they can, and are a lot.
I'm not just boasting or anything, by the way. I speak for more than just myself here;I think my generation in particular is host to a lot more people that question everything they're told down to the last word, and that's a wonderful sign.

Wanna feel God? Step onto the wrestling mat and you'd be crazy to deny the uplifting spirit. http://www.BadPreacher.5u.com (incomplete, but look anyway!)

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One_Charred_Wing
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Message 17 of 27 (122170)
07-05-2004 4:02 PM
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07-04-2004 11:20 PM


Re: It is imperative
...to raise questions once you learn to think for yourself and have some successful "thinking's" under your belt.
I agree. The only problem is that there are some people who don't think, and as such never get to raise question.
What you said about your parents takes me back to my init question....Is it a lie if what I say is truth to me but not to you?"
Depends, but probably not.
What your parents told you must surely have been truth to them, and it appears they raised you right, right to the point where you can make your own truth.
Well, I'm flattered as I'm sure they would be, but when one of them told me to 'not question things like what the Bible says' and 'an older person will always know better so listen to them', I think most of us will agree those are wrong, by just about anybody's standards.
The way I see it, question absolutely everything. If what you're questioning is really such ironclad truth, then it will withstand the skepticism.
"Come let us reason together, says the Lord".....meanin', ifn it don' make sense, pick up the phone or send an e-mail.
I agree. God knows what He's talking about regarding this.
Your generation is no different from any other, but every generation thinks it is.
I'm not sure I agree with this. The Baby Boomers are certainly taking aging differently than their parents, I'd say. Also, my generation has a strong lean toward questioning religion in particular; a large portion of churchgoers between the ages of 12-16 are just forced to go with their parents and are actually far from believing anything they're told. Obviously, there always were people like that, but I've asked some older pastors and they agree that 'atheism is on the rise'. That's both a good and bad thing in my opinion.
This message has been edited by Born2Preach, 07-05-2004 03:02 PM

Wanna feel God? Step onto the wrestling mat and you'd be crazy to deny the uplifting spirit. http://www.BadPreacher.5u.com (incomplete, but look anyway!)

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One_Charred_Wing
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Message 21 of 27 (122423)
07-06-2004 4:03 PM
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07-06-2004 10:50 AM


Re: Be sure your
(COPY AGAIN!! I figured out the culprit was the escape key. The little punk doesn't stop the post from going through.)
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One_Charred_Wing
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Message 22 of 27 (122424)
07-06-2004 4:03 PM
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07-06-2004 10:50 AM


Re: Be sure your
You're very philosophical, you know that?
When your parents told you not to question, they had your interest at heart the only way they knew how.
And you're right about that.
As for the growth of atheism? "Let not your heart be troubled"...."All things work together for those who believe in God"....It is as it should be. God is in control......'don't let your heart fail for fear'...all is as it should be.
No worries, I didn't say it was wholly a bad thing at all.

Wanna feel God? Step onto the wrestling mat and you'd be crazy to deny the uplifting spirit. http://www.BadPreacher.5u.com (incomplete, but look anyway!)

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One_Charred_Wing
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Message 23 of 27 (122425)
07-06-2004 4:07 PM
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07-05-2004 4:39 PM


Re: It is imperative
atheism or just a turning away from some hard core christian type beliefs? this is one of the side effects of making such a big deal out of the fundamental literal only approach ... that once that is questioned it is harder to accept the rest.
The former. The latter as well if you're referring to literalism, which really, although it is probably all true and us skeptics are morons, isn't the main message. The main message of Christianity(as well as other religions) is love to all; it's turning away from that message that makes me notice.
(Edited to fix some plural-singular agreement)
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