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Author Topic:   How do we know God is "Good"?
Dan Carroll
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Message 245 of 305 (160554)
11-17-2004 1:37 PM
Reply to: Message 243 by mike the wiz
11-17-2004 1:26 PM


Re: Irrefutable mike strikes
Whoops, an edit!
It doesn't mention babies. If yu are saying that you can conclude things without the bible saying them things, then I conclude God put all babies on a spaceship untill it was over.
Knock yourself out. But you'll just be making your own faith look bad, by admitting that it requires ludicrous solutions to cover for obvious flaws.

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Dan Carroll
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Message 247 of 305 (160569)
11-17-2004 1:57 PM
Reply to: Message 246 by mike the wiz
11-17-2004 1:43 PM


Re: Irrefutable mike strikes
No - I'm saying that if you dismiss all logical possibilities
So, a totally babyless society is a logical possibility now? Because the complete absence of babies is the only way there could have been no babies killed.
I now say that because the bible doesn't specifically mention babies - that God made a big baba spacecraft for all cutie babas to get on while the flood occurred, afterall - the bible doesn't say this.
If that's what you need to maintain your faith in the Bible, then knock yourself out. It's no sillier than a guy living inside a whale.
I can understand your need to invent stuff like this, though. The Bible, as it stands on its own, is pretty difficult to take seriously.
MUST that logically mean babies?
Yes, Mike. "Everyone" does indeed include any babies that were there. So once again, unless it was some sort of bizarre babyless world, then it does logically mean babies.
If you want to avoid the conclusion that God killed babies, feel free to defend the stance that there were no babies on the Earth at the time of the flood. Because "there were no babies" is really the only way to avoid the conclusion "God killed babies".
And again, you'd really think the authors of the Bible would have mentioned something like, "By the way, there were no babies. Like... anywhere! Messed up, huh? I mean... a whole planet with no babies? What's up with that?"
I've established none were righteouss according to God.
God's really got a mad-on for those sinful babies.
I've established that it only mentions men.
So I guess there were no first-born male children or babies in Egypt, huh? Because if there were, then God killed 'em dead!
That'll teach 'em a lesson.

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Dan Carroll
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Message 282 of 305 (160956)
11-18-2004 9:08 AM
Reply to: Message 251 by mike the wiz
11-17-2004 8:40 PM


Re: Irrefutable mike strikes
The issue is, whether God admitts in the scriptures, to baby death.
He does, Mike. He said he killed everyone. Everyone includes the poor little babas.
Even if there were babies - man's sin caused their death.
I see. Man forced poor little God's hand into killing all those babies.
That must have been rough for God.
If "everyone" MUST mean "babies where alive" then you win.
Cool, looks like I win.

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Dan Carroll
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Message 286 of 305 (160962)
11-18-2004 9:25 AM
Reply to: Message 285 by mike the wiz
11-18-2004 9:23 AM


Re: Irrefutable mike strikes
Does everyone - in the scripture, mean Noah and his family?
No, because they are specifically identified as being saved. Do you see the babies specifically identified as being saved, Mike?
Let's see the quote, Mr. "trust what's in the scripture."

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Dan Carroll
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Message 301 of 305 (161060)
11-18-2004 12:08 PM
Reply to: Message 300 by mike the wiz
11-18-2004 11:51 AM


Since Dan things that "everyone" doesn't include certain people
Excuse me, but don't twist my words.
I'm saying that the phrase "everyone except Noah and his family" doesn't include Noah and his family. Not that "everyone" can be interpreted in such a way as to not include Noah and his family.
Anyway... anyone else getting a really specific vibe off Mike here? The kind of vibe you get when a five year old busts out crying at Bambi's mom getting shot, and his mom says, "No... no, it's okay. I'm sure the other deers took her to the doctor's and she got all better."
Sorry Mike, but Bambi's mom is worm food, alongside all those little flood babies.
This message has been edited by Dan Carroll, 11-18-2004 12:13 PM

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Dan Carroll
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Message 304 of 305 (161072)
11-18-2004 12:31 PM
Reply to: Message 302 by mike the wiz
11-18-2004 12:14 PM


But you for a long time - touted that "everyone" with breath in them. Are you sure you are getting this from scripture?
I was keeping things simple for the purpose of discussion, Mike. I didn't see the need to say "(except Noah and his family)" every time the subject came up. But you know that, so stop being an asshat.
But if you want to get really specific? The Bible lists exactly what people were on the ark. Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them.
It then says that all flesh died that moved upon the earth.
So yes. Everyone died except Noah and his family. Direct from the Bible. Happy?

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