Why Doesn't God Explain In Person?

Actually, I just don't acknowledge that there is a problem.We're wandering way OT here so I'll try to keep it brief.Let's say I do something nice for you. Is that a benefit to you?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

I think there is a deeper misunderstood issue here. This discrimination also results in the sense of being separated from God, All That Is. The sense of shame and the burdens that Adam and Eve felt come from that.Near Eastern religions and cultures for some reason don't seem to have accounts from individuals who awakened until perhaps the teachings of Jesus. So the focus remained on the sense of separation and of atonement by sacrifice and following rules. Atonement as At One Ment is acheived with the awakening from the illusion of being a separate being to the process of God as the source and the manifesting of the universe.Language arises from this separation. It is a human artifact. Individuals might translate their understanding into language and claim God speaks. Or translate their words in actions and claim God understands our words. But I hold the source has spoken no languages except as individual beings. Explanations are stories people make up. Being and the universe can be explained by people, but those explanations are abstractions, partial, and can never be the whole truth. We could say when a person explains that is God explaining in Person. But All That Is is much more than persons and there are no true explanations as language can't accurately model totality. So God can't explain in Person because there are no persons and no explanations.lfen

i'm pretty sure i disagree with this, but give me a day or two to find some good evidence. i'm fairly certain there are several old testament prophets that take similar stances as jesus. amos comes to mind, but i'll find you some quotes.

Oh, I'm interested for sure. thanks,lfen

whoops... sorry, I thought I'd replied to this already.If you do something nice for me, I think that's of benefit for me. Thats like saying that if I do something of benefit for you, you get some benefit, isn't it?

So if I do something for you, you benefit.Remember we're working based on when you said: Now if I also get a benefit when doing something good for you, does that diminish the value of what you recieved?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

jar I would imagine that would depend on whether the action was initiated consciously or unconsciously.The latter would render the motivation vague at best while the former would be argueably opne way or the other.

If I give you ten dollars do you get ten dollars?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

jarLOL If you give me ten dollars I end up with more than ten dollars thanks to our marvelous Canadian dollar.I do remember a time when I would have been on the losing end though. I will give the arguements some thought and answer later as I am a poor man and must work today.Talk at you later jar.

But how did we come to know the difference??

Think it through completely. I did not mention whose currency. Assume for a second that it is ten dollars Canadian.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Great question.And of course, not everyone does know the difference.I think in general the way we learn morals is through empathy.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

No, but it does change your motivation. You act in the hope of a reward.

So morals are the result of us being social animals?corrected spellingThis message has been edited by Flying Hawk, 11-27-2004 09:50 AM

again and it may well be my fault, but let me try to answer. It MAY change my motivation. It is not necessarily black and white.My getting something from the act may be incidental, may be unintentional and may even be unknown to me before the fact. I might be motivated by the idea of my getting something, but then, that may not have anything to do with the issue.But in either case it does not reduce the value to you, nor is it necessarily bad. If you have kids, you will understand that there is NO joy greater than what you get from wathching your kids at Christmas or a birthday. They get presents but you get something far greater in the sheer joy of seeing them have fun.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion