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Randy
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Message 22 of 163 (15860)
08-21-2002 4:27 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by wesmac
08-19-2002 9:18 PM


quote:
Originally posted by wesmac:
About your claim that the Bible contains scientific errors...specifically the part where you claim that it says insects have four legs. I'm glad to see that a believer of evolution is reading the Bible but you need a lesson in understanding transitional thoughts. That verse does not say that insects have four legs. God gave man permission to eat of four legged creatures and then in the "next thought" gave them permission to eat locusts. If that's the best you've got then your argument is weak.
Tell me how old testament scripture says that God "hangeth the world upon nothing"? This was not the accepted (or even suggested)scientific or religious view of the world at that time.

Let’s see what Leviticus actually says in the creationists favorite the KJV:
11:21 Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;
11:22 Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind.
11:23 But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you.
Sure sounds to me like it’s talking about four legged insects. Just what are those flying creeping things with four feet you can eat and those other flying creeping things which have four feet that are abomination to you? Your statement above makes me wonder if you have ever read these passages yourself. BTW locusts are grasshoppers, they are not different "kinds".
The old testament also says the following:
1 Chronicles 16:30: Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved.
Psalm 93:1 The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is established, that it cannot be moved.
Psalm 96:10: Say among the heathen that the LORD reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved: he shall judge the people righteously....
Psalm 104:5: Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.
Are you a geocentrist? Do you believe that the earth is fixed and immovable?
Randy

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Randy
Member (Idle past 6276 days)
Posts: 420
From: Cincinnati OH USA
Joined: 07-19-2002


Message 29 of 163 (16500)
09-03-2002 12:53 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by JJboy
08-31-2002 1:00 AM


From JJBoy
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The writer of Leviticus has never seen an insect, I suppose. I think that it would have been comman enough knowledge, even then, that grasshoppers had six legs. I believe it is just a figure of speach.
The writer of Leviticus was supposed to be Moses and Moses was supposedly writing down those things that God spoke to Moses saying
Do you think God had never seen an insect? Wasn’t one of the those plagues that affected Egypt when Moses was there locusts? You’d think Moses would have seen one or two. Or maybe it was not written by Moses and was written as you say by someone who had never seen an insect and that is why it this error.
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The hare does, in layman's term, eat it's cud. It has, as I am sure you know, two pellets. One is hard, and is waste. The other is soft, and the Rabbit eats them again, like cud.
Sorry eating feces is NOT chewing cud even if they are soft feces, no matter what the apologists say. I have seen those clever twisting apologetics that try to explain this blunder away. It seems to me that if the Bible really was the revealed word of God in every particular, it would not require all these complex apologetics, some of which make very little sense.
Randy

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Randy
Member (Idle past 6276 days)
Posts: 420
From: Cincinnati OH USA
Joined: 07-19-2002


Message 31 of 163 (16513)
09-03-2002 8:59 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by JJboy
09-03-2002 7:33 PM


JJBoy
You have posted a couple of claims from what is often called the PRATT list on these debate boards. It stands for Points Refuted A Thousand Times.
The sun is not shrinking
http://www.tim-thompson.com/young-earth.html
I find the population claims particularly amusing. This is just plan silly. The population of the world was stable or even declined many times even during recorded history. During the 14th century the population of Europe declined because in many places the plague killed well over half the population and there were wars and famines as well. One of the apologetic sites that Blitz pointed to explains a discrepancy in the number of "men who drew the sword" in ancient Israel by saying that there were actually one million one hundred thousand swordsmen. At even a 1/2 precent growth rate there should be about 3 trillion Israeli swordsmen around now. Where are they?
I think there are forums here where you can get long ago refuted young earth arguments shot down yet again. This forum has a different purpose. Discussion of the errors and inconsistencies in the Bible.
Randy

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