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Author Topic:   Is Something Wrong with Mother Earth?
robinrohan
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Message 4 of 84 (176317)
01-12-2005 5:28 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Lysimachus
01-12-2005 8:43 AM


Lysimachus writes:
Even now he [Satan] is at work. In accidents and calamities by sea and by land, in great conflagrations, in fierce tornadoes and terrific hailstorms, in tempests, floods, cyclones, tidal waves, and earthquakes, in every place and in a thousand forms, Satan is exercising his power. He sweeps away the ripening harvest, and famine and distress follow. He imparts to the air a deadly taint, and thousands perish by the pestilence. These visitations are to become more and more frequent and disastrous. Destruction will be upon both man and beast. "The earth mourneth and fadeth away," "the haughty people . . . do languish. The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant." Isaiah 24:4, 5. GC 589, 590
I don't know, but according to my Bible it wasn't Satan who was doing this. If you go up to the beginning of the chapter, you will find the following:
"Behold, the Lord maketh the earth, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof." and verse 3, "for the Lord hath spoken this word." (King James version)
So apparently God is doing this if you want to equate the situation in Isaiah with today.

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robinrohan
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Message 5 of 84 (176320)
01-12-2005 5:47 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by robinrohan
01-12-2005 5:28 PM


I agree about the haughty people though. There are a lot of haughty people around these days. I run into them all the time. But the problem is, I don't know if there are more haughty people now than in yesteryear. We don't have any stats on that, as far as I know.

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robinrohan
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Message 14 of 84 (176591)
01-13-2005 3:13 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Lysimachus
01-13-2005 2:07 PM


Re: Reply to all
lysimachus writes:
It would be unwise to be inflexible as to the proper interpretation of the bible verse you are making.
I don't know, I think I prefer to be pretty inflexible. That way we can at least be definite. When it says God did something, then I prefer to think the correct interpretation of the verse is that God did it, not Satan. When it says Satan did something, I prefer to think the correct interpretation of the verse is that Satan did it, not God--unless you want to suggest that Satan is God, which is a position I am not prepared to dispute.
Of course there is a very general sense in which you can say that God does everything but that to me is too vague to be very useful. By your view, there is a sense in which I can say, when I do something, God is doing it, since "He permits it." But it might get pretty confusing if I went around talking that way.
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robinrohan
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Message 41 of 84 (176948)
01-14-2005 10:01 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by CK
01-14-2005 9:45 AM


Re: Something wrong with the earth?
Charles, have you tried Zoroastrianism?
If you like the meditative nature of a fireplace on a cold winter's night, it might be the one for you.

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robinrohan
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Message 49 of 84 (177017)
01-14-2005 1:42 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by Quetzal
01-14-2005 10:45 AM


Re: Why single out my post?
Quetzal, are you talking about global warming or something?
"nomadic goat herders"--I realize that's pretty accurate, but it's also funny.

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robinrohan
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Message 56 of 84 (177086)
01-14-2005 6:02 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by CK
01-14-2005 5:58 PM


Re: The question?
Charles writes:
Sub or Dom?
Charles, what does that mean?

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robinrohan
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Message 58 of 84 (177115)
01-14-2005 7:29 PM
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01-14-2005 7:12 PM


Re: The question?
Asgara, why are you mocking me?

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