A listing of the contradictions and errors in the bible.

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Originally posted by gene90:
[QUOTE][B]Sure you will.

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There are lots of men in there who say they are Jesus.[/QUOTE]

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Thanks for defending me again but please note that it was never my position that patients in an asylum would not tell the same stories.

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I actually pointed this out in the message you replied to.

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A mass delusion is still a delusion.

[QUOTE][B]A mass delusion is still a delusion[/QUOTE][/B]I hope this isn't abrasive but were you paying attention to what I said?

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Originally posted by gene90:
[QUOTE][B]A mass delusion is still a delusion[/QUOTE]

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I hope this isn't abrasive but were you paying attention to what I said?

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You were asserting that deluded people can't work together for a common goal and I'm saying that you are quite mistaken.If they couldn't than we wouldn't have any religions.

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Originally posted by nos482:
Originally posted by schrafinator:

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You kind of late on this one.

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Take cheap shots, make personal insulting comments (think lobotomy) and you will show yourself to be no better than the Xtians who yell that you are going to hell if you don't believe as they do, or that all those who don't believe are degenerate.

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Again, maybe you should read a little closer next time. I had said that it seemed to be a requirement that theists have one on the logic and reason centres of the brain. Others have said far worse things than that. Why don't you jump on them. Get with the program.

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Usually if anything that is a bit rude is said, it is after a period of politeness.I will freely admit to having had to be nudged back on to the impersonal path by the moderators once or twice myself.If you don't want to take my advice, and instead wish to get defensive and excuse yourself, then I have already told you what the consequence will be.Do not try to tell me that you writing that Gene/Christians thinking the way they sometimes do was the result of having had a lobotomy was anything other than a personal slam.I am sorry that you feel singled out, but I feel the need to speak up.Attack the positiopn, not the person.Oh, and as far as "getting with the program", I have been a part of this forum since it was on Yahoo Clubs. I think it has to be at least 3 years now. I think I know "the program" quite well, thank you.Perhaps you might want to look over the forum guidelines yourself?[This message has been edited by schrafinator, 09-15-2002]

Originally posted by schrafinator:Do not try to tell me that you writing that Gene/Christians thinking the way they sometimes do was the result of having had a lobotomy was anything other than a personal slam.What is meant was they seemed to lack logic and reasoning when it comes to religious beliefs.Besides this is a complete non sequitur. We've all moved on long ago.[This message has been edited by nos482, 09-15-2002]

[QUOTE][B]You were asserting that deluded people can't work together for a common goal and I'm saying that you are quite mistaken. [/QUOTE][/B]Quite the opposite, I believe that deluded people can work together and I claimed this in a prior message, I think it was somewhere around #17 in this thread.These threads can sometimes get confusing.

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Originally posted by gene90:
[QUOTE][B]You were asserting that deluded people can't work together for a common goal and I'm saying that you are quite mistaken. [/QUOTE]

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Quite the opposite, I believe that deluded people can work together and I claimed this in a prior message, I think it was somewhere around #17 in this thread.

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These threads can sometimes get confusing.

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Looked it up and there was no meantion there.

[QUOTE][B]Looked it up and there was no meantion there.[/QUOTE][/B]Ridiculous. It was around 17, exactly as I said it was. Thirteen to be exact. [QUOTE]Somebody else:[B]Go to a nut house and look what you'll find. You won't find 5 crazy people telling the same crazy stories.Me [QUOTE][B]Actually they might as long as they are around each other enough. I'm curious though, have you tried this or read any studies? [/QUOTE][/B][/QUOTE][/B]End of story on that.I find it amusing that you have to even revise the history of a thread, when you can clearly look something up very easily.

Originally posted by gene90:Ridiculous. It was around 17, exactly as I said it was. Thirteen to be exact.That is more like around 10. Some people should learn how to format their postings and such confusion wouldn't happen.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by nos482:
[B]Has this file been shown here before?Subject: A List of Biblical Contradictions
By: Jim Meritt
Date: 1992-07-24

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WS: Such lists abound in skeptic/agnostic/atheist websites, along the lines of Burr's book. Each and every one of them and more have been answered in books, as well as online in many forums and of course in Jewish and Christian websites for years. Yet, there is no respect for truth among the critics who just move on with their long lists seeking to discourage yet another group of beleivers, many of whom won't guess those "errors" are only poor Bible exegesis. That is all they are- confusion. Actual Bible scholars, Jewish, Christian, or others even among secular students, don't come up with those claims since they have the knowledge gained from study, knowing how the facts tie together. Scripture interprets scripture, one of the essentials of properly sorting the original message of the various contexts. There are no errors in the Bible as accepted by the churches, but there are modern versions that do have much error attempting to fit the scriptures to current slang language and reformed socio/cultural concepts. Such error is easily discerned through comparison with oldest manuscript sources. Just simple reference to lexicons often settles supposed errors.

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Let's test this thread topic. Let Nos prepare his 10 favorite "errors", one post a day. I will attempt to answer them. That would be a fair sample of the list, especially if 100% of them are proven as not true errors or contradictions. I predict there is not enough knowledge of the Bible to select the most difficult choices. I further propose the list is supplied without personal investigation of the claims, or knowledge enough to have discovered one of them personally. As is common on other forums, the list is posted as pasted from skeptic websites, assuming it is valid challenge. It would be unfair for Nos to ignore such an outcome by simply going on ad infinitum with more sets. When I answer, I'll indicate my own work, and supply references to websites or books that deal with particular claims of errancy. When the ten are finished let's decide whether the answers appear flawed, and if not, decide whether/why it is necessary to explore all the rest of the list if the initial test is 100% for inerrancy. How large a sample would the majority here require? All of the questions would take months or years to deal with if other lists are added, so a reasonable sample size is needed. Statistically, ten out of ten is very powerful, especially if the ten are chosen as most difficult.

Gee, now that smell is over here. Good thing I brought my clothes pin with me. Snip, awww, now that is better.

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Originally posted by nos482:
Gee, now that smell is over here. Good thing I brought my clothes pin with me. Snip, awww, now that is better.

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WS: As I predicted, the only response will be such juvenile tactics as that. This speaks LOUDLY of the sophistry of posting that list without being able to defend it. Empty, false accusations leave one a fool when one doesn't answer the challenge he is a false witness. If you appeared in a court of law doing that, refusing to support your accusations, the case would be dismissed, followed by tort against the accuser. Shall this thread then be locked? I declare it dead for all practical purposes. Battle won without a shot fired! Interesting. One of the main defenses of evolution theory is attempted discreditation of the Bible. That under foot, maybe it's time to visit other threads.Shall the accuser now rely on friends to come to his defense? If so, let the proxy defender bring shame upon the defended and him/her self.

Time for another clothes pin. What kind of crap has this guy been eating?

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Originally posted by nos482:
Time for another clothes pin. What kind of crap has this guy been eating?

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Yes, I definitely think that he has been eating a lot of crap.