Your reply along with Ned's and Jon's give the implication that there is no "real" problem with presupposition bias...only one perceived by one side.
Not exactly. My position is that bias has yet to be established. If the conclusions from science are based on bias then there must be some other conclusion that can be derived from the same set of facts. Since such conclusions are non-existant we cannot conclude that there is an interpretive bias.
Adding additional, often hypothetical, constructs to the evidence can lead to different conclusions but unless those additional constructs are fact then you cannot consider the original conclusion biased. Even if you could show that the original conclusion was biased minus the addition of some facts you then would have to show that that original conclusion is still being held despite the facts.
Are you suggesting that since they are constrained by a bias (Bible) that they feel evolutionists SURELY MUST BE constrained by some bias also?
No. I am saying that, until bias can be shown, all the claim of bias is just whining about mainstream acceptance of ideas that one does not like. Where is the other interpretation of the same set of facts with a different bias? No creationist has ever demonstrated it ever. All creationists do is apply additional, often wrong, suppositions from which they draw their different conclusions. They don't ever explain anything in the context of the original conclusion in light of only the
actual evidence.
How can you know that you are not?
I very well may be wrong. But I cannot know until it can be shown that an alternative explanation for the evidence exists for a different bias. The hard part is that this alternative explanation must be about the
exact same evidence.
Better yet, how can you convince those that accuse you, that you aren't constrained by inordinate presuppositions?
Simple. Innocent until shown guilty. As far as I know, no alternate explanation of the evidence exists so how can bias be shown? It is not my job to prove that I am not biased. If I am, it is the job of others to show that I am. So far this is lacking.
FOX has a pretty good system they have cooked up. 10 mil people watch the show on the network, FOX. Then 5 mil, different people, tune into FOX News to get outraged by it. I just hope that those good, God fearing people at FOX continue to battle those morally bankrupt people at FOX.
-- Lewis Black, The Daily Show
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