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Taqless
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Message 165 of 204 (199798)
04-16-2005 7:22 PM
Reply to: Message 155 by Faith
04-16-2005 12:47 AM


Let me be perfectly clear.
If you need something to be clarified then ask me to do so. It's really not necessary to make the personal comments.
1. Originally in the thread Who should be believed Ham or Ross? Post #166 you wrote the following:
I'm talking about the common accusation that the Bible has supposedly been altered over the centuries so that it is no longer the original, not any particular changes, just a general accusation. The existence of any scroll from that time that has the same text as our text is proof that such accusations are unfounded.
There are three problems with what you wrote:
1. There have been changes "over the centuries".
2. MANY have cited specific changes, such as PaulK.
3. You citing the DSS, specifically the Isaiah scroll, is in no way "proof that such accusations are unfounded.". At best, it would support specific changes to the OLD TESTAMENT since the time of the DSS, ~2nd Century B.C.
Point #3, to my understanding, is one of the reasons why PaulK opened this thread.
AS YOUR POST #166 STOOD the reason is obvious: Your use of the Isaiah scroll as "proof" that the "common accusation (read above if you have forgotten the entire post you made)" was "unfounded" is blatantly INCORRECT. It does not prove any such thing. AT BEST, it refutes a claim other than the one you mentioned in your post(for example: changes between the DSS and modern day texts specifically).
So, as you can see, your post below:
Faith Post #5 Isaiah and the Dead Sea Scrolls writes:
As I reread our exchange it seems clear to me that from the beginning I was talking ONLY about "common accusations" that the Bible has been changed many times over the years SINCE the time of the Dead Sea Scrolls.
can in no way have been an intuitive jump for either PaulK or myself with respect to the time inferred by you in post #166 when compared to being clearly stated as you did in post #5. In the end, it seems that you did clear up that "irrelevant" response.
Thanks, hopefully no hard feelings?

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Taqless
Member (Idle past 5942 days)
Posts: 285
From: AZ
Joined: 12-18-2003


Message 166 of 204 (199799)
04-16-2005 7:26 PM
Reply to: Message 151 by Taqless
04-15-2005 7:41 PM


Re: Bible inerrancy in what sense?
Wrong reply
This message has been edited by Taqless, 16-Apr-2005 04:27 PM

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Taqless
Member (Idle past 5942 days)
Posts: 285
From: AZ
Joined: 12-18-2003


Message 167 of 204 (199800)
04-16-2005 7:36 PM
Reply to: Message 119 by Monk
04-14-2005 10:59 PM


Re: Bible inerrancy in what sense?
Hi Monk,
I wanted to inform you that when I stated this:
"I then asked about changes prior to the DSS and was informed by Faith that since the scribes did such a great job post-DSS that one could conclude that the same could be said about the texts prior to the DSS."
in post #151 I was mistaken. After carefully re-reading Faith's reply (#49)I mistakenly thought the subject was still about my question(#46) when it appears that for some reason Faith began discussin the reliability of the scribes SINCE the DSS. It threw me off, and so I jumped to the wrong conclusion and my above statement is incorrect.

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