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Originally posted by Hanno:
I'm not participating in this dabate anymore, but I need to set something strait. I do not worship the bible. I regard the Bible as Gods word to us. How can you worship God, while rejecting his Word? If you tell your wive you love her, but never listen to a word she says, you'll end up with a divorce.
You can accept the "word" without worshipping the book its written in. Jesus used parables, and the Bible is one. That is what you seem unable to accept.
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"3rd, whether the apostles and Jesus were real or not is really insignifacant. The real purpose of the Bible is to give you the guides to live by. "
You really have absolutly no idea what Christianity is about. If the bible isn't real, why would anyone follow its guidelines? If you don't believe in the bible, you might as well throw it away. We follow the guidelines in the Bible, because we believe it's Gods Guidelines, and that God knows what is best for us. If it isn't, then it is just the idea of some man, and you might as well throw it away and buy a book on phycology. Further more, God gave us these guidelines to live by as a way of thanking Him for our salvation. If you do not believe that He paid for our sins, why exactly would you follow these guidelines??? Your arguements is exactly that of the Inter faith movements: You rip out the hart of the Christian faith, then reduce it to a set of moral rules and then you want all religions to come together "because they all believe the same thing".
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I never said the bible isn't real, I said it wasn't literal. The guidelines the bible presents in its broadest scope are exactly the same as the guidelines of other religions. And that worshiping the bible is not the same as worshipping the Judeo/Christian God.
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"2nd, suppose he "proved" he was God. Would that suffice? "
I don't know myself. But a truely alpowerful, alknowing God would. Hence the "all" before "powerful" and "knowing"
That isn't really an answer by the way. You should really think about it and try to answer it, if just for yourself. If you are able to accept the possibility that God COULD tell you that the bible is not innerant or literal, but in fact is a big parable that conveys his message, or his spirit then you are doing ok. If that possibility is to frightening to contemplate then you are really not the kind of christian you think you are.
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I left this debate in a dignified and honorable manner, leaving it as a stale mate. Now you lot start using the tactics of a religious person that feel cornered: you stray from the point, and throws personal insults. (I concider your statement that I am worshipping a book instead of God very insulting). You had lots of time to prove me wrong on the toppic I've posted, and non of you could give any concrete evidence. All of it was speculation. Now that I wish to leave, you force me to come back to reply to this so called "arguements"!
I am sorry if you feel I am attacking you, but I am not. I am mearly posing theological questions about your religious beliefs. You seem very vigourous in your beliefs and I was just wondering what they are based on. I have been exposed to MANY religions(Mother Jewish, Father Roman Catholic, gone to Hebrew school, Protastant High School where I was forced to attend chapel 3 times a week and take two years of theology) and I am fascinated by this kind of thing. Actually my questions don't need any responses, but are hopefully making you really ponder your own beliefs and where they are based.
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