Where are the Christian Democrats?

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Maybe Kerry should have talked more about what a Christian he was.

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He tried, the catholic church condemned him for his stance on moral issues, and threw their support into the candidate who enjoys war, money, oil, and capitol punishment. Well maybe just targeting Bush with these unsavory things that he apparently is for, America as a whole are the ones who voted for him, and who with their obsession of oil went to war. I don't really travel by car yet, I have a permit but I hope I don't turn into a greedy American who would rather see thousands die than to have a day without food, fuel in the car, or a shelter to live in. Most of the world isn't as lucky as we are I guess.

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democracy.
at best, it's only as good as the people it represents.

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We're almost straying away from democracy, my global teacher says, we are more of a representative republic, he has a point, the vote that counts goes through the electoral college, but we are more of an Ancient Rome, than an Ancient Greece. We are eggactly like the Roman Empire was, when Rome fell, things like "bread and stadiums" kept the people delightfully uncaring about those that were effected by it's being, As Americans we think nothing of going into wars, overthrowing democratically elected officials in places that to us simply don't exist. The communist stopping America did a lot of damage to those countries that we tried to stop from "turning to the dark side". I think Castro was a hero for stepping up against the machine, and quickly making ties with Russia. And I don't blame Islamists for trying to kill Americans, for we have done much worse over the span of our country's long existence. (I just found out how to post pictures, I think it rocks.)My Lai massacre in Vietnam.

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You need a history referesher. We are not at all like the Roman empire. The fall of Rome occured gradually and had a complex mix of causes.

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How does this go against us being like Rome, and falling like Rome? So far, we have a complex mis of causes, stretching from the mentality of the people, to the deficit spending, to the immediate gratification just as the fall had. This seems like a complex mix of causes , wrong there.Saying that because the fall was gradual is a generalized statement that is almost subjective, this in no way should be used for support for your argument. (In case you forgot, "we are not like Rome")

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Castro was no hero. He was and is a self serving communist dictator that ruined a thriving Cuban society.

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Castro's intentions of saving his beloved country from another country's grasp deems him a hero in my eyes, You unfortunately have probaably been affected by the media's portrayal of the man who quickly saved his homeland.One of the adjectives you used to portray Castro in a negative light sort of angered me, you used the word "communist". Most likely you lived through the cold war and have a little "Red-Hate" in you. But just in case you can look past the glorious competition between two equally inhumane countries in their actions for supremace, the you might be able to see the basics of Marxism, which sparked Communism. A classless society where all are treated fairly. To what it has turned into partly because of human imperfection and greed is in itself not totally appreciated by us, the west. But I see communism as an effort to make people more equal, and destroy the "have" "have-not" basis for which humans are judged. Marx reached for what was Godly, he did a good job.

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As far as Islamist terrorists, they ARE to blame for their inexcusable acts of barbarism. Whatever the US has or has not done in no way excuses their actions.

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This tidbit of a mostly not thought out post disturbs me greatly. You seem to have the impression that you are the only human that matters on the planet, a view like this can be dangerous, and directly relates to feelings of nationalism, ethnocentricism, bigotry, rascism, and idiocy.This message has been edited by prophex, 06-03-2005 03:20 PM

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Finally, I have no idea what the My Lai massacre photo has to do with Christian Democrats. You are way way off topic here.

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These types of atrocities happened frequently when the United States wanted to spread our precious democracy.

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i do. at least here in the us.

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Why?(about blaming islamists for terror)We are as guilty as they are, actually much more if the death tolls were counted and presented without meddling with by the media. I would feel like one of the "terrorists" if say my homeland was taken from me, or maybe my family was destroyed. Can you understand the perceptions of the tortured?edit:Why don't you use capital letters?This message has been edited by prophex, 06-03-2005 03:21 PM

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I could say something like:
"As for the US military, they ARE to blame for their inexcusable acts of barbarism. Whatever Islamists have or have not done in no way excuses their actions."

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And it would be equally true.

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Exactly, this is what Monk doesn't see, he sees the garbage on TV, and hate stirs within his soul for people he has never met, that's a tradgedy. He ignores the things that have caused who we call "terrorists" to terrorize, for they are far more evil, than 9/11 was.

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I'll say it again, Islamist terrorists ARE to blame for their inexcusable acts of barbarism. Whatever the US has or has not done in no way excuses their actions. If that truth disturbs you then I've made my point.

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If my family, the people I love, my guides, my companions in life were killed for a goal that to me made no sense, based on money, then I would drive a car-bomb into a UN building, I would fly a plane into a densly populated zone of these ignorant unfeeling bots that destroyed my life, that hindered me to the point of suicide. I would commit acts of "TERROR" FOR THIS TERROR IS SURELY JUSTIFIED. But you are enjoying a comfortable life probably, these tortured souls slightly affected your life, indirectly, so to you sir, they are BARBARIANS... That pisses me off

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And I used the word correctly. That’s because Castro IS a communist.

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Why is being a communist a bad thing?(Had to spell it out, your inability to understand gives me a need to simplify.)

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Yea, right. Saved his homeland? That’s an absurd joke. You have no idea what you are talking about. Cuba is no utopia. You should open your eyes.

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Castro saved his country from being a capitalist freak-show. This man is a hero. (this isn't including his mistakes, and bad choices as a dictator but for the pre dictator actions he deserves the title.

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Over the past forty years, Cuba has developed a highly effective machinery of repression. The denial of basic civil and political rights is written into Cuban law. In the name of legality, armed security forces, aided by state-controlled mass organizations, silence dissent with heavy prison terms, threats of prosecution, harassment, or exile. Cuba uses these tools to severely restrict the exercise of fundamental human rights of expression, association, and assembly.

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Check the parentheses. At least Castro is Cuban, what if the U.S. assasinated him, or took over before he gained ties with Russia? Things would most likely be just as bad if not worse.

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