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arachnophilia

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Message 14 of 71 (213347)
06-01-2005 11:55 PM

Reply to: Message 12 by crashfrog
06-01-2005 9:47 PM

I remember some veterans had some problems with him, but since they turned out to be liars, I stopped paying attention.

seriously though, why would veterans have a problem with a war hero?

and not a draft-dodger?

has everybody just lost their common sense? how does good war record = bad war record < no war record?

granted, that's not as bad as the attacks on max cleland who was accused to being a terrorist himself, after losing three limbs fighting for hios country in vietnam.

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Message 15 of 71 (213348)
06-01-2005 11:58 PM

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06-01-2005 6:34 PM

there are religious left people... The reason they aren't known for forcing their agenda on America is:

kind of a "duh" point, but:

the left generally does not believe in forcing anyone's agenda on anyone, but rather allow for individual freedoms and civil liberties.

so christian democrats aren't rabid in their beliefs, by definition, and do not try to manipulate politics in favor of them (ie: legislating so-called religious issues).

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Message 19 of 71 (213370)
06-02-2005 12:48 AM

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06-02-2005 12:21 AM

Re: the political game

democracy.

at best, it's only as good as the people it represents.

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Message 22 of 71 (213638)
06-02-2005 6:46 PM

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06-02-2005 5:04 PM

Re: the political game

We're almost straying away from democracy, my global teacher says, we are more of a representative republic

we've been a representative republic for more than 200 years, you know. the founding fathers understood my statement: "democracy. at best, it's only as good as the people it represents." they decided to remove the direct control of the people, instead opting for a variant of the parliamentary system (with a separation of the executive and legislative branch), where people vote for the people who vote for stuff.

hen Rome fell, things like "bread and stadiums" kept the people delightfully uncaring about those that were effected by it's being

quite. there's an old saying to the effect of "when the people get bored, they turn to politics." the best way to ensure tyranny is a good media.

As Americans we think nothing of going into wars, overthrowing democratically elected officials in places that to us simply don't exist.

a good point, we've done some rather nasty things, often in the name of spreading democracy. which is damned ironic if you ask me. however:

And I don't blame Islamists for trying to kill Americans

i do. at least here in the us.

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Message 48 of 71 (214090)
06-04-2005 3:19 AM

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06-03-2005 3:18 PM

Re: the political game

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i do. at least here in the us.

Why?

(about blaming islamists for terror)

because i blame anyone who kills innocent bystanders. us, them, anyone. our country may be partly to blame. and our military may be partly to blame. but on the whole, our civilians are not. most of us have nothing to do with them at all.

and partially, it's the m-o of terrorism. they try to get their way by controlling a population through fear. just doesn't seem like honorable war practice.

however, the military knows what they're getting into, and so do the people over there. if we're in their land, i think that's fair game. no offense to the people who are dying over there.

edit:

Why don't you use capital letters?

i don't like the shift key.

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