Religious views of Magic the Gathering--PLEASE HELP!

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fundamentalists as a whole are very wary of temptation. they seem to avoid it at all costs. and something with pictures of beasts and demons and ghouls doesn't really seem like anything BUT temptation to idolatry to them.

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I guess they will be "saving" their children and themselves from all art museums, too.

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Old-fashioned occultic practices such as astrology, Ouija board, seances, tarot cards, are more obvious.

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You do know that Ouija boards work via the ideomotor effect, right? linklink to info

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MTG, much like music, is amoral IMO. The decision to delve into witchcraft or the ocult can come from any outside source. One reformed witch said he got into it from watching the old TV show Bewitched.

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Just in case you didn't realize, Tal, it is the year 2005, not the Middle Ages.

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That remark gave the demons a good chortle.

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Gee, maybe you should get your humors checked.I think you are showing symptoms of too much black bile in your system.

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The question is why all the occult imagery. I took a brief look at the game's website and saw just HOW oriented to the occult it is. Surely a good game of adventurous complexities for the geekery gang could do without the sorcery.

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Show me a SINGLE shred of verifiable evidence that there is such a thing as spells, sorcery, or anything at all like that which actually exists and I will denounce MTG immediately after.

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But any kid who did get entangled with demons would be in deep trouble and that's what worries Christian parents.

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But they could always take their possessed child to the friendly neighborhood exorcist who could bleed him or maybe perform a trefination to let the demon out, right?

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Since according to you there is no such thing as angels, archangels, or any other heavenly host either, then a game based on these characters would be ok.

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I don't know if such things exist or not.There is no evidene to suggest they interact in a detetable fashion with the physical world as far as we have been able to tell.So yes, a game based upon these characters would be fine by me....except wouldn't you need demons, devils, and maybe fallen angels as antagonists in such a game?

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But if it doesn't actually flirt with sorcery why would you denounce it just because sorcery is real?

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The reason it "doesn't flirt with sorcery" is because there's no such thing as sorcery.It's just make-believe based upon old legends and mythology.

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There's a ton of evidence in witness reports in all religions and cultures.

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There's a ton of witness reports of magical or unusual creatures like Nessie, Big Foot, mermaids, space aliens, monkey men, succubi, gods walking among humans, vampires, werewolves, shapechangers, tenuki, woodland spirits, etc. in all cultures, too.Does that mean they all exist, even though there is no verifiable, reliable evidence that they do?If I told you that I saw Krishna, or Big Foot, or a vampire, would you just unquestioningly believe me, or would you require a bit more evidence than just my say so?

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But I understand, you occupy the superior enlightened position of being able to pronounce all those other human beings deluded.

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...or mistaken, or uneducated, or overly superstitious, most likely.Don't you hold the position that you yourself occupy the "superior enlightened position of being able to pronounce all...other human beings deluded" when it comes to other religions, and even interpretations of Christianity that is different from yours?Like I said in the post you are replying to: Do you have such evidence?If so, then let's put it to the test and see if it holds up.

Right, sorry.Well if sorcery was real, then we could see if the game actually did promote it.Since we have no idea what sorcery would be like, what effect it would have, what would be required to practice it (does it require inborn talent or can one study to do magic?), we really don't know if the game would be dangerous or not.