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Mammuthus
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Message 6 of 22 (21866)
11-08-2002 8:23 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by McDozer
11-07-2002 8:29 PM


Hi everyone! I'm surrounded by 150.000.000 Germans who don't by the slightest stretch of their imagination would even consider that the World did not "happen" by evolution, as that's the info they've been brainwashed with since they were babies.
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150.000.000 Germans? Where are the extra 68 million Germans hiding?
Considering the lack of separation of church and state, the only brainwashing would be from the myths propagated by the various christian churches.
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Now, I'm working on translating the book by James Perloff (or at least parts of it), but that's gonna take me a year by the rate I'm going. I'm no big scholar,
I'm a musician, happen to speak 3 languages, but maybe some of you geniuses out there could link me up with anyone or anything to help me? I was miraculously saved from a destiny of having to die stupid.
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To bad you were not miraculously saved from having to live stupid.
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Would you like to help me to do the same for others? I'd be extremely grateful! Looking forward to some more miracles, Dave
(Thought on "miracles": all of creation is one miracle after another.)
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Thought on miracles, a musician claiming not to be a scholar claims that scientists are stupid..LOL!

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Mammuthus
Member (Idle past 6505 days)
Posts: 3085
From: Munich, Germany
Joined: 08-09-2002


Message 8 of 22 (21870)
11-08-2002 9:09 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by McDozer
11-08-2002 8:52 AM


nor do I feel as "mammothly" superior as to feel the dire need to put my fellowhuman's down.
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Glad to see you don't feel the dire neeed to put your fellow human's down
"At least I won't live & die like you, an Arschloch"
I wonder what you would have written had you felt the dire need?
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So, you're Charlie's big defender on this block are ya?
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Charlie ? Charlie's Angels maybe but never Charlie.
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Well, you & Ur ilk had me fooled all the way up till the age of 12.
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From Ur Righting that Cud Not have Been Long Ago
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And though I haven't heard any myths from churches, I did find the Gospel,
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No myths from churches eh? So you believe anything anyone says from a church of any denomination...the anti-skeptic lives
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& I dare say that it's got more to offer in it's simplicity than you will ever achieve in the zillions of words you may yet utter in vain babblings, trying to confuse, mislead, discourage & put down others.
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Simplicity? Then why are there so many sects that do not agree with one another?..if it so obviously simple you would think there would only be one church and everyone in agreement.
As to the second part..ok show me all the physical evidence for jesus and god and supply us all (with your great wisdom) the falsifiable and testable hypothesis of creation or are you hear to babble, try and confuse, mislead, discourage and put down others?
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No wonder Germany sucks. It's full of people like you.
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Glad you are not here to put down your fellow humans ...oh, and you are always free to leave and find the mother ship.

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Mammuthus
Member (Idle past 6505 days)
Posts: 3085
From: Munich, Germany
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Message 20 of 22 (22177)
11-11-2002 5:12 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by McDozer
11-08-2002 10:08 PM


Hi McDozer
Dear Tranquility Base, (remember, just a dumb musician, no scholar...)
thanks a lot for the information. Please accept my apologies if I should have offended you, I just wasn't ready for an "attack" from this side.
M: The site is a debating forum for evolution versus creationism...most of us are here explicitly to argue.
To explain: I'm currently collecting info material on what you may call the "New World Order Conspiracy", & was just experiencing similar clashes with "defenders of the dark side", so to speak, especially on a German group. To settle the "mothership" issue once & for all: I'm German myself, so regards to your granny. I was a missionary abroad for 11 years 1980 - 91 & have experienced that Germans per se are generally a little more difficult to take (myself included) than some other nationalities & you might say even developed a dislike towards the hostile attitude of some. Personally, I still don't see the point in your friend's initial reply to my plea for help, as it was rather discouraging.
M: Out of pure curiosity, could you share why you find Germans in particular hard to take as opposed to other nationalities? As a clarification, I am not German. I am American but live in Germany.
I find Germany rather comfortable as the average citizen is better educated than in the US and for the most part, the fundamentalists are a minority.
McDozer:
Being entirely new to this site, though, I want to apologise & would just wish that only people would respond to posts if they have anything positive to contribute, instead of trying to hinder & discourage others. Maybe my initial choice of words was exaggerated & may have caused offense. I mean, I'm trying to get material in German to reveal information to them which at this point is not accessible.
M: You will have to live with the fact that many people will disagree with you. It is not really an issue of offense. If you tell me that I have to believe in a mythological god/supreme being/whatever because you are convinced that it exists, don't expect me to agree with you or to willingly comply. Others will also feel the same way. If you are confident in your beliefs, it should not matter what I or others beleive.
McDozer:
It's not the people I antagonize but the mental conditioning they (we) have been subjected to. many people don't realise this, but I personally believe that there are forces behind this misinformation.
M: Funny, I feel exactly the same way about fundamentalists...but I think most people realize that there is a fundamentalist agenda of disinformation and oppression....they usually do not disguise the fact.
McDozer:
So, in hopes of a more peaceful future colaboration... and in the light of "Mammuthus" being your friend, apologies to him, as well, yours sincerely, McDozer
M: No need to apologize to me. As I see that Quetzal has directed you perhaps to a site more in line with what you were expecting (or looking for) and I would encourage you to visit it...but I would also encourage you to stick around here and engage in some of the other forums. You will get a lot of different points of view (from creationists and evolutionists) on many subjects and will see a lot of heated arguments. You will probably find that the debates and the topics are more interesting and varied than you might have imagined.
cheers,
Mammuthus

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Mammuthus
Member (Idle past 6505 days)
Posts: 3085
From: Munich, Germany
Joined: 08-09-2002


Message 22 of 22 (22445)
11-13-2002 4:36 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by McDozer
11-12-2002 7:46 PM


Hi McDozer,
As I said, I think you might find the debates here interesting and encourage you to stick around. Not just because you will see what evolutionists have to say but you will also see what different creationists have to say.
Auf Wiedersehen
Mammuthus

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